Talk: Jspoelstra/Archive 27

Continued botwork[]

Hi J. I just want to let you know that I have resumed the bot in making those changes. If you have any other fixes in mind, please let me know as I am going through all the articles by a category structure by game. --Skire (talk) 21:49, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, I've added those to the programming. I'm currently doing a few test edits to make sure everything's set. --Skire (talk) 23:25, May 6, 2013 (UTC)

I have added your other job (tag skills parameter) to the programming and I've been re-running a few of the categories to make those changes. Skire bot (talk) 00:09, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

I'm now using the list of pages that have {{Infobox character}} on them, so we can catch all the Tag Skills fixes (which I think are the more important task), but also since you mentioned that there were a lot of <br>'s that needed to be changed on character pages as well. The queue is currently around 3500 pages, so the bot will be quite busy for a long time =) --Skire (talk) 00:46, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Sockpuppets[]

Hi, Jspoelstra! Theodorico is here. I'm planning to start editing at the russian wiki, so I need to settle one administrative matter, concerning my former accounts ( User:Theodorico and User:TheodoricoBot ). I've "lost" passwords and I can't use/deactivate them, so they are stuck. Strictly speaking, they are my sockpuppets and I'd be grateful, if you could deal with them at your discretion. Thanks in advance. --85.141.139.156 00:12, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

NMA, TV, TFW[]

You're a pretty neutral and collected guy - I'd love it if you sent them a message about this. I know that I plan on talking with them about this and seeing what we can do about that unflattering piece. Not sure if you've read my responses to Eden, but they haven't even answered me back for my original messages to them before they posted that article. So we'll see where this goes after I can get into official contact with them all. I'm hoping their Vault bias doesn't blind them enough not to see the potential that Nukapedia has, which is seemingly growing by the week in comparison to just about every other Fallout community. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 12:36, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Message was sent out in the form of private messages to Odin, Brother None, and WorstUsernameEver:
"Hello! My name is Leon, and I am an Administrator at Nukapedia. With news over Fallout being pretty dried up as of late, we at Nukapedia have managed to become presented with some very unique opportunities to get an in-depth view into those behind the Fallout vision, as well as what's to possibly come with the next title. We were wondering if you'd be interested in covering our stories, as well, along with us possibly beginning a mutual relationship between our two communities. If you're interested, we have come across some good fortune in the form of personal interviews between our community, and those such as Erik Dellums, and even Mr. Chris Avellone. For your convenience:

• Interview with Nukapedia, Wikia, and MCA - http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Agent_c/Nukapedia_News_Digest_-_4_May_2013
• Interview with Erik Dellums - http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/User_blog:Agent_c/Agent_c_talks_to_Erik_Dellums

We would love to hear back from you over your thoughts on these matters!" ^{Some Assembly Required!} 12:49, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

Sock-puppet.[]

This has nothing to do with Nukapedia, but I was wondering if you could use your check user rights to determine whether two users over Wikia are the same people or not.

• Hadron12
• Knight of Camlorn

^{Some Assembly Required!} 17:10, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

It was just an experiment I was conducting, anyways. :) Sorry to waste your time. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 17:20, May 7, 2013 (UTC)

CSS to look at[]

Hey, J, I had a suggestion from User:Pecoes to add a slightly different hue every other line on long tables to break up the look and make them less a strain to read. I've applied his fix as a separate class, va-table-shaded to look at it. You can see it on Fallout:_New_Vegas_perks, one of the pages he sited as a problem. We can't use it on all tables, since it will interfere with highlighting (e.g. Fallout 3 weapons), but I thought we'd look at it and see what we thought. Let me know if you think it helps or hurts table reading. The Gunny   00:55, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Whoops[]

That was a slip up, I've been keeping the text the way it was before, just forgot to do it on that one. My Bad. ---bleep196- (talk) 15:23, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Hey Js, I am at the point where I'm moving from Fallout Dialogue files to Fallout 2 and I'm noticing that the title pages of the articles aren't in all caps like the Fallout ones. Is there a reason for this inconsistency? ---bleep196- (talk) 16:47, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Good Idea. ---bleep196- (talk) 16:52, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

I've scrolled through virtually all of Ausirs talk page Archives and there is nothing to address the names of the Dialogue files themselves besides a user suggestion to simplify the names to the major characters mentioned in the file. I'm guessing that the person who suggested this started and then never finished this process. I am going to double check the game files to see whether or not the titles are in all caps. ---bleep196- (talk) 17:03, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Reply[]

-shrugs- He essentially said that NMA has no problem with Nukapedia, and that while he understands if the article seemed negative, that his editorial style is always snarky. So I'm guessing he's not going to change anything, even though I went through pains to point out errors in his article such as Nukapedia being under the radar. That, and he said that NMA doesn't talk about 3-Dog since the majority of the Fallout community hates him. Seemed like a bias thing to say, but meh. Anyways, all of that is a bit shoddy, but what are we to do? I also discussed with him about reviving our previous relationship, but he claimed that NMA has never had such a relationship with either Nukapedia, or The Vault. I pointed out when Tagaziel changed our linkage to The Vault's, and he sort of side-stepped that by mentioning it can get a bit murky having an Admin/Mod within both communities. However, I did get one good result out of that: He added Nukapedia as a 'Resource' on NMA, right next to The Vault. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 16:58, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

Clearing disambiguation page[]

Checked in today and for the most part it looks like most of the stuff left on Special:Disambiguations is either .MSG files or appropriate redirects to disambig. pages. However, it says on the page that it is limited to only 1,000 entries, so it's possible that there are more links that need cleaned but won't show up. Can this page be set up to at least filter out the .MSG files? I don't know how the legitimate redirects that we don't care about anymore could be removed, though. And BTW, one page I ran across today was "Tracker's Shack" that just redirects to "Trapper's shack". I suppose it was thought that someone might type "Tracker" when they were looking for "Trapper" but I'm not sure how often that really happens. I guess I would nominate that page for deletion, although I suppose it's not really a big deal. --FFIX (talk) 21:03, May 8, 2013 (UTC)

I'm noticing something else on that page. Some articles are on that page because they have a navbox that links to a disambig. In most cases, the navboxes have been cleaned up, but the articles containing them still seem to appear on the list. I assume that this is because the articles themselves have not been edited, thus the script does not re-analyze them to see if they should stay on the list? An example is Vertibird, which the page shows linking to Kevin and Cook. The Vertibird article actually contains neither of these, but it does contain the Enclave navbox, which did contain them before the cleanup effort was started. This navbox has since been cleaned up, but many articles are still flagged because of it (and a few other navboxes). Can the script re-analyze all the articles, including those that haven't changed, to get these entries off of it? --FFIX (talk) 20:48, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

OK, since you edited the Enclave navbox again, I decided to look for a page with a different navbox. I found Outcast outpost, which is on there due to the Operation: Anchorage navbox. I'll check back tomorrow and see if that one is off the list. --FFIX (talk) 21:29, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Np[]

Happy to help, and sorry on the Patrolmen message page. I figured it would be lower case 'kill him?', didn't know it was original text. Apologies. 11:49, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

S.O.R.-1000[]

Hey Js, I'm currently fixing the links on the B.O.M.B. design documents and I noticed that the S.O.R.-1000 bots are all the same except for the tasks that they have been assigned. Is there any particular reason why they are separated into 4 pages other than for names sake? ---bleep196- (talk) 17:28, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Charts[]

Thanks a lot for the compliments. That chart did take a long time. I still feel like it could use some work however, mostly just the box sizes. I'm glad I got the GECK though, it's been a big help during this work. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 21:21, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

You know, I read the prima guide once and I think I remember that... Some of these charts really are long though, good thing they can be collapsed. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 21:48, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Game Guides[]

For Journey, I've got him just working through the Fallout quest page to keep it simple; he's a bit nervous/inexpereinced, and there's not too many actual quests on the page so they should all be done pretty quick; all the categories will go up in one lot so the order doesnt matter much. The Main questline for the other games I'm going to handle them directly as I need to make sure they appear in game order rather than alphabetical. Agent c (talk) 21:26, May 9, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Bot[]

The bot has already been running this job series for awhile now. As we speak, it is still running the characters pages (around 1400 pages in the queue now). I can add the list of pages that link to the infobox person template to the list. You can decide which ones the bot should tackle first. --Skire (talk) 00:11, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

Excellent. And as a friend once said, "Bots don't sweat." =) --Skire (talk) 00:23, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, that job has been completed. Is there any else you need done? --Skire (talk) 01:12, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

Roger that. It's working as we speak. --Skire (talk) 21:31, May 10, 2013 (UTC)

Disambigs[]

Hey J. I'm looking at the disambiguations page and I can't find some of the links on those pages. Am I doing something wrong? --Skire (talk) 16:19, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Alright. I'll try to get cracking on those after I finish some more bot work. I can start backwards from Z. --Skire (talk) 20:14, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Looks good[]

It's shame we don't have enough space for the other two add-ons. I can't see any way to add them without the tabs wrapping to a second line, which looks like poopy. The Gunny   18:09, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Tense[]

Heyo~ Sorry to bother you. I just have a quick question. Fallout Wiki:Editing guideline 1.4 - "Articles should generally be written in present tense." Does 'generally' mean 'always' in this case? Many of the Fallout Tactics articles were using a mix of past and present tense so I chose to keep everything tidy by making it all past tense. Another user told me that using past tense was incorrect. Fallout Tactics happened eighty-five years ago according to the Timeline so I think it would make sense to use past tense on Fallout Tactics articles. Another question. Can past tense be used on character articles if that character has died? I'm just really confused about this because I think that it would make sense to use past tense were it's appropriate instead of being required to use present tense when talking about something that happened in the past. Sorry, that wasn't really as quick as I thought it was going to be. Luvere (talk) 18:34, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, if I find more pages using a mix of past and present tense I'll change it all to present. According to the page (FW:EDIT), anything that happened before 2161 can be written in past tense. Is that correct? Can past tense be used for dead characters such as Dead regulator? Luvere (talk) 23:01, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, thanks. Luvere (talk) 19:15, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Chat[]

Would it be good to insert the <chat/> tag at the Main page? It allows quicker access and more newcomers at chat. Energy X 21:55, May 11, 2013 (UTC)

Well, I reckon it's oK. There already is a direct link to chat in the nav menu that shows on page load. The only thing I don't like, and it's not the chat module in specific, is that the right column is getting quite a bit longer than the main (left) column. I also want to make sure that the news feed shows on page load whenever we start to get any new game news. Maybe we could balance the columns by moving the news feed to the left? The Gunny   01:50, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

Funny, I just came to the same conclusion. I was playing with it in my sandbox, didn't like the news in the left column because of all the extra crap showing and decided that we needed to shorten the summary, too. I'm good with it now. Even with that 600px long add we have on the front page now, it looks better. The Gunny   02:04, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

I'm sure they'll iron that out. Porter looks like he's gonna have time next week to work on some of that stuff for them. Good to see he's not MIA anymore. The Gunny   02:11, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

User rights removal[]

Howdy, J. The user rights removal process says:"In the event that an administrator or moderator has been inactive for an extended period of time, they will have their user rights removed by the bureaucrats and restored by a community vote upon a return to constructive editing." What we've been doing is leaving a message on the person's talk page to ask their intentions. The rule doesn't really leave us that wiggle room, it just says their rights will be removed. How should we handle this when we leave the message after a user has been inactive for 9 months, yet they say they intend to still use their rights? Does leaving the return message count as an "edit", resetting the clock for another 9 months? Or should we just enforce the letter of the rule and remove the rights without asking their intentions? I'm also leaving this for Clyde. Let me know what you think. The Gunny   17:52, May 12, 2013 (UTC)

I don't have Ghost's email. I can leave a talk page message, but he's not logging in anymore. If you or Clyde have his email, maybe we can contact him that way. The Gunny   01:43, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

On this subject, don't forget to remove mine J. I always said I wanted to start again when I got back :) 213.121.232.116 19:37, May 14, 2013 (UTC) (Ci)

Its cool how you got that because I didn't in my game 65.130.195.107 20:40, May 13, 2013 (UTC)kate

Where did you find that? Can you please tell me? 65.130.195.107 20:43, May 13, 2013 (UTC)kate

C[]

Where did you find that? Can you please tell me? 65.130.195.107 20:47, May 13, 2013 (UTC)kate

Link[]

'Resources.' ^{Some Assembly Required!} 22:54, May 13, 2013 (UTC)

Infobox error[]

I made an edit to Big Circle to get it off the disambig. page. I only changed one link, but when I saved it, I saw several "Expression error: Unexpected < operator" errors. I decided to revert my edit, but the error stayed. I found that if I went into edit and deleted the infobox, then previewed the changes, the error went away. There are several "<br />" tags in the infobox, but it doesn't help to remove them, only the entire infobox. I then went into a few other pages with infoboxes and previewed edits in them (even without making any changes) and saw the same error. Has something changed to start causing these errors? --FFIX (talk) 11:41, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Infoboxes are borked[]

Hey, Jspoel, the infoboxes are borked. Every page I've visited features this error "Expression error: Unexpected < operator.". Often times the images in these infoboxes are huge. Richie9999 (talk) 14:10, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Weird Expression Error[]

Hey Js, there is a weird expression error popping up on my user page, and I can't figure out what is causing it. Any Ideas what is causing it to show up? ---bleep196- (talk) 16:22, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Ah ok. Hope they fix it fast, the stretching of the infobox images is an eyesore. ---bleep196- (talk) 16:30, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

I think you're probably right about the update. They messed with files a bunch. I sent a Special:Contact bug report, didn't know if you did too, but I would like them to fix this fast. I checked over at CC, and no reports by anyone else I could find. Waiting to hear from them. The Gunny   20:31, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

That's a very complicated series of templates. The images are actually brought in through Tl|Infobox/aux3, but a number of variables are passed to that through the main infobox template. It's got to be something related to changes they made in the file system. Perhaps point them to aux3? The Gunny   22:23, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Stripe[]

Why did you undo that Stripe looks like a generic Gremlin in the Behind the Scenes section? Stripe was characterized by keeping his white, fuzzy mohawk after his transformation. Going by closest resemblance, Stripe in the game resembles Mohawk from Gremlins II or a generic new batch Gremlin more than Stripe from the first movie. Great Mara (talk) 19:26, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Think this might have gotten buried. Great Mara (talk) 23:25, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Talon Company[]

Anon 69 has gone through the G.E.C.K. and has come to the conclusion that the group shot on the Talon Company article-page depicts a female model that does not exist, and that the only one that does exist is one Asian model. However, the image was added by Joylock who was known to add legitimate images, along with my remembrance that there were multiple dead female Talon Company mercs in-game. So I loaded up my Fallout 3, and the one in the Corvega factory was Caucasian for me. So I was wondering if you could do one of two things for me:

• Upload screenshots for each of the three dead female Talon Company mercs.
• Go through the G.E.C.K. to determine if the anon is missing anything.

Your help would be appreciated! ^{Some Assembly Required!} 20:36, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Errors[]

Hi J. I've noticed two problems with the site as of late: 1 - the infoboxes are requiring an "image size" parameter, otherwise they are super large and make the infoboxes super large as well. 2 - I don't think the user rights icons are displaying properly. Could this be something wrong with the MW software again? --Skire (talk) 22:34, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

I see your icon as "ADMIN" only, no bureaucrat one. I tried purging the page too. --Skire (talk) 22:40, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

But on another topic, regarding disambiguation pages, should we change the links only for article namespace pages, or others as well? --Skire (talk) 22:49, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Gotcha. --Skire (talk) 23:04, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Another thing, what should be do about links to We Must Stop Meeting Like This? Some of them refer to the entire series of quests as a whole and not to a specific one of the four. It is even necessary to split them up like this? --Skire (talk) 23:13, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Giant infobox fix[]

So it would appear that adding the size parameter to the infoboxes fixes them. Shall I start working on that or wait for wikia to fix it? Richie9999 (talk) 22:50, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

Fiiiiiiiine : ) Richie9999 (talk) 22:58, May 15, 2013 (UTC)

The Superhuman Gambit problem[]

Hi, I just finished editing this page, but I noticed something wrong. The infobox is unusually large and it says "Expression error", I don't know if its a new feature or a big bug, I didn't do anything to the infobox let alone know how to fix this, I think I need some assistance with this one, please. Sector 36 (talk) 13:06, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Giant Infoboxes Continued[]

It seems that if you edit a page that isn't affected by the errors yet it infects them...I hope wikia fixes this soon, it's obnoxious. ---bleep196- (talk) 16:19, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

Yep. I am glad that our images are good quality, or else this would be a lot worse. I'm getting close to finishing the Bug charts, I've gotta finish the Items for Fallout 3 and New Vegas then cross check everything with the Bug verification category and make sure I have all the articles with bugs documented in the charts, then we can start taking the project template down off all completed pages. Skire has already volunteered his bot so that we won't have to flood the recent wiki activity with edits. ---bleep196- (talk) 16:28, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

The problems do seem to continue. Just saw the Beyond the Beef article having the same problem. Have you heard anything from wikia?-- ^{A Safe People is a Strong People!} 19:08, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

TC Cont:[]

Yeah, I went in-game and confirmed that they all used the same models. I told them that they could remove the image, and I asked them if they could do us the kindness of replacing the image with a more proper one. That article-page will be lesser without a group-shot like that, me thinks. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 23:26, May 16, 2013 (UTC)

(Gamepedia/Curse) Vault[]

Hi J. The Vault was vandalised last night. I have a good faith reason to believe one or more of our regulars may be repsonsible. I was thinking about putting something in the news to indicate that behaviour isn't acceptable. Do you have any objections to me doing this? Agent c (talk) 15:37, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

The chat logs last night are more definitive - its pretty clear who did it. Officially its out of our space, but it doesn't stop me being extremely disappointed in the person involved.

With the showcase, I was waiting for the other 2 to go up, good news is wikia is pushing that up to today, so I'll be running the full thing with all 4 parts here today all going well. Agent c (talk) 16:37, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

TV[]

Yes, it was me. Between the Vault copying our content, some of the Vault's editors who frequent the chat continuing to act as if we're black sheep and/or unprofessional, and the recent NMA headline more or less downplaying us, I decided to dish a punch back. I'm sick and tired of all the hard work the good folks (especially the work you put in Jspoel) here put into this place on a consistently regular basis not being respected like it should be. They practically rely on us for solid edits over there, and even if they do credit us, it's in poor taste for them to copy/paste our edits and make like a +1 or +10 difference, and still look down on us from their noses as if we do anything but put in damn good quality effort to maintain a superior quality Wiki.

If a situation starts because of it, I'll take full responsibility. No one condoned what I did afaik anyway, it was my personal self who got fed up with being the 'bigger person' and decided to administer a little revenge. That being said, I don't regret what I did, but I will accept any and all consequences that may arise and quickly clarify if and when anyone thinks lower of Nukapedia itself for this, that they should think lower of me. 18:58, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Games app[]

Fine with me. Good way to advertise the app, since the site looks like crap on mobile without it. I just hate all that extra white space on the left. Any reason why we can't get rid of the "Affiliates" section box? The Wasteland wiki is already linked in "Affiliates" of the bottom portal section. The Gunny   20:18, May 17, 2013 (UTC)

Infobox image problem[]

I've moved all discussion of the infobox template image issue to Forum:Infobox_image_size_problem so the conversation can occur in one place. You can see my recent findings there. The Gunny   17:05, May 18, 2013 (UTC)

Return[]

Hello J, I'm going to be coming back now, at least for the summer. How active I'll be depends on what else I'm doing, and I'm not making any promises, but I've finally finished for the year at uni, and I'll have a monumental amount of time. Aside from that, I think that we might have some information to work with soon, so now is the time! To get me back into it, I wanted to ask you for two things.

1. Could you please delete all the extra pages that I have in my user space. I don't need any of them, and they're just taking up space (an annoying my tidy mind)

2. Until I get back into the swing and know what needs doing myself, can you provide me with information on what needs doing. That way, I can be useful from the start and hopefully get into finding it fun again.

It'll be nice to see you around again ol' buddy :) (maybe this 'new' start will be better than the original one ;) )

-- GOTW ^{User | Talk} 18:32, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Also, this keeps coming up on pages: Expression error: Unexpected < operator -- GOTW ^{User | Talk} 18:40, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Found that one out by myself now, so don't worry. -- GOTW ^{User | Talk} 19:44, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

To be honest, all of them, because my user page on the Vault has been wiped, so everything I actually had before like rewards and things are gone, so that bummed me out a bit, so I just want to start again. The Vault is, essentially, just a sad story for me now... I'm pending a name change to, so I'm just starting fresh. Is that alright? I can't do sound bites unfortunately, but I'll take a look at that forum. Wasn't there something with disambigs too? -- GOTW ^{User | Talk} 19:57, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, thanks a lot. An original too, that's awesome of you! I honestly didn't think that they would change it so fast, but it's good to be able to start fresh so quick. I'm going to do some editing until I'm tired now, and take a look at expanding those stubs, but I have no assess to a console for a week, so I'll have to do my best for now, and add to them later. If there's anything I got from Itachou, it's writing whole pages. That's always been my bag ;) Thanks again J, perfect welcome back gift :) -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 23:21, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Oh yeah, the fun's back! And I've found a new pet project in the film. Someone has created them, but not put much effort in, so I'm going to do the bios properly and milk the crap out of it, see how far I can take it. Maybe it'll need a portal by the time I'm done ;) Wooohooo -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 00:13, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Wirexia[]

True, it could be him, but I'd rather not take the chances, especially when it's a removal of all content on the page. Does that sound reasonable? --Skire (talk) 23:16, May 19, 2013 (UTC)

Pure Human Vote[]

Hi J,

Could I trouble you to take a look at Leon's Pure human vote forum.

I have some real concerns on the process and undue scrutiny and conditions that are being placed on votes here... So much so that I think its threatening to deligitimise the vote... It seems to be being steamrollered through.

I appreciate the enthusiasm, and agree with the need for one of the pages... But I think if this sort of scrutiny is going to be applied, then the management, scrutiny and any exclusions need to come from a neutral party - not the proposer.

Thanks, Agent c (talk) 16:18, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

PHV[]

Nothing personal at all. As long as you don't call anybody a racist and as long as you've read the forums instead of jumping to pre-conceived notions that have been proven wrong with evidence, then all votes are welcome. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 16:26, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Infoboxes[]

Ah my bad. Also, it seems that there is another problem, with the map marker images even adding the 240px doesn't fix the large infobox issue. If wikia can't fix the problem we may have an issue there. ---bleep196- (talk) 18:13, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

That's good news. The Bug charts are finished, so whenever Skire get's his bot programmed the Bug Verification Project tags should be coming down from all pages with completed bug sections. ---bleep196- (talk) 18:23, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Another user (he added his thoughts to the forum) suggested a temp fix Porter used when a Mediawiki upgrade made the extension in question not work. I will add Porter's temp fix to the template today to at least give us some time for Wikia to locate and fix the problem. Not 100% sure the temp fix will work, but it did for Porter. The Gunny   19:26, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah. I'll update them. This is only a temp fix that just removed the extension's problem for now. Ideally, the extension problem is fixed and the code gets reverted. The Gunny   20:22, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Unavoidable. The changes I made overwrote the (non-functioning) extension's ability to resize images by forcing the infobox to use the default size on all infoboxes. Everything bigger will size down, everything smaller will size up to the default. No real way around that other than to define the |image size= parameter on those pages. It's only a temp fix until Wikia can figure out the problem. The Gunny   01:30, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Personal film project[]

Hey J, just a heads up about what I'm doing with the film, so that you (and people who read your messages (yes you there, don't think I wasn't aware of your presence. After all, I am omniscient now)) can have an input before I get under way properly. Basically, although it is somewhat based on Fallout, I don't think it is enough to have the 'Hero' linked to the Vault Dweller page, and think he needs his own page. I also need to create another page for the master, as he plays a different role in the film to a degree, and think he needs a new page, most likely 'Master (film)'. Aside from that, I have questions on what you think is best. Should pages like Techy, be renamed to the longer version in the film treatment, or the version that appears most often? Furthermore, if I am making new pages for characters that appear both in Fallout and the film, should I do the same for locations like the Hub? Finally, if you give me the go ahead to split pages, what should the parenthesis contain? Personally I think 'Example (Fallout film)'.

Thoughts? -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 21:28, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

Did you see this J? -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 18:48, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Alright, I'll only make new pages when crucial (as in they don't appear in FO1), otherwise I will incorporate them in the pages. I warn you now though, these sections will be quite long, but well written. ;) -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 19:31, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

White Storm[]

Just got back and he's already showing his maturity level on Yessie's talk page. Here. Great Mara (talk) 23:59, May 20, 2013 (UTC)

errors[]

I can not say I have not made mistakes but some of what you pointed out is questionable.

You wrote "Quote" With the Aces theater you made it theater. As far as I know it's theatre. ."End Quote."

• I have mild Dyslexia, so on the Tops page I used spell check. According to spell check "theatre" should be "theater" Aces theatre??? is it intentionally miss spelled or is spell check wrong?

The cell name even says "TOPSAcesTheater" just like I wrote. I am honestly not being a smart ass here. I just do not see how that is my fault. I think the guidelines page is a miss print. Spell check, Google and the cell name all say it should be "Theater."

The player's character vs player character seems arbitrary because it refers to the character that belongs to the player. I did not bracket such a common reference so it never accrued to me to me to bother this time either. If you would rather have it say the player character O.K. I am here to cooperate.

• The cursor on the Sloan image was all me but it is an easy over site to make and clearly not one I usually do make.

I will continue try. That is the best I can do.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 01:34, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

I was not try'n to rub anything in your face. I totally agree "No one's infallible."

• I was just pointing out the guidelines page typo.

As I said I will continue to try my best.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 01:05, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Infobox fix?[]

Deleting an image from a page with a broken infobox and then putting it back up restores the correct size. Is this a fix or something that shouldn't be done like adding image size? 69.125.134.190 04:47, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

No, not image size. If you delete the image and then reupload it, it returns to the normal format. 69.125.134.190 17:45, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Behemoth robot[]

I'm going through the FOT editor and I'm trying to add the stats for at least one page every day. Luvere (talk) 23:06, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Essential[]

But he lacks the ability to die, so is essential, he isn't marked as such in the GECK because the child script already compensates for that, so there is no need to add another script that stops him from dying. He may not be marked as essential but he is, for all extensive purposes, essential.
JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?" 23:06, May 21, 2013 (UTC)

Time[]

Hopefully a bit more time. It depends on how much and when I'm working... And with whom. I know I've been a bit scarce these last couple of weeks, but should start settling soon. Agent c (talk) 13:58, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

It will take up a lot, but the reduction in employed work hours means I expect it to be okay. I'm planning Miss Wasteland tonight, then Mr USA, followed by an in character special, and back to the hole. Agent c (talk) 14:20, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

Infobox problems 2.0[]

I've been a bit under the weather the past couple of days. I'll try to take a look at those map images tonight. I can't make any promises, since that's even more complicated with the use of Tl|Infobox/aux3, but I'll try. The Gunny   19:36, May 22, 2013 (UTC)

A notice[]

Hi J. I am terribly sorry for my absence as of late. My computer has (yet again) broken and I have sent it in for repair. I cannot have regular access to the wiki and so will be away for the next few days. I will try to get back to things as soon as possible. Cheers, --Skire (talk) 00:45, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Absolutely. The bot will have plenty to do upon its return =) --Skire (talk) 21:46, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Infobox images[]

I noticed that making any edit to pages removes Expression error: Unexpected < operator. but I'm having another problem now. Every time I edit a page the infobox image enlarges. See screenshots(original on right). Is this some other problem or am I doing something wrong? I haven't been editing the infoboxes.

Luvere (talk) 05:18, May 23, 2013 (UTC) forgot to sign again...

Oh, ok. Thanks for the explanation. I thought I was accidentally messing something up somehow. Luvere (talk) 03:32, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Woops[]

Sorry about that, just trying to help. I saw the developers category and saw a lot of room to work with tbh. 16:12, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Gigantische infoboxen[]

Beste Jspoelstra, ik merk de laatste tijd dat de infoboxen opeens gigantisch groot zijn geworden. Ik snap dat dit een fout was en dacht ik meld het even, misschien heb ik het alleen in mijn browser. Nu zag ik echter op jouw overlegpagina dat je veel meer van deze meldingen heb gehad. Weten jullie waar dit door komt/aan ligt? Hebben jullie toevallig al een oplossing? Als ik bijvoorbeeld kijk naar Megaton dan is de infobox op mijn pagina bijna de hele pagina breed en gigantisch lang, ook de plaatjes zijn heel groot. Maar als ik bijvoorbeeld kijk naar Ant researcher, dan is er geen probleem. Wat veroorzaakt dit? Het lijkt niet te liggen aan bepaalde soort pagina's, aangezien ik het heb gehad bij pagina's over locaties, quests, mensen, enz. Maar ook van elk van deze soorten pagina's, een pagina waar het probleem zich niet afspeelde. De pagina's laden wel een stuk langzamer zo en daarom hoop ik echt dat de problemen snel verholpen zijn. {{SUBST:Signature|Kennyannydenny}} 16:49, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ok, bedankt voor de informatie. Ik zal die handeling "edit, geen wijziging en opslaan" doen wanneer ik deze tegen kom. Ik zal het wel even veranderen naar "Administrator on the Elder Scrolls Wiki". Het staat daar namelijk omdat ik wel degelijk administrator ben, alleen niet op de Fallout wiki, maar op de Elder Scrolls wiki. Het is helaas niet apart in te stellen op alle wikia's. Ik hoop met je mee dat wikia er snel wat mee doet. Gelukkig hebben wij nooit zo iets gehad op de Elder Scrolls wiki. Ik heb wel eens gehad dat er opeens een rits aan gebruikers bij mij als admin aanklopte met dat ze opeens meldingen kregen dat ze geblokkeerd waren. Dit probleem lag toen ook bij wikia. Maar ja, voordat ik over vanalles ga praten ;) Nogmaals bedankt voor de snelle reactie. Mvg, {{SUBST:Signature|Kennyannydenny}} 17:22, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Kleine Update: ik was begonnen met wat je vroeg, die nul edits zodat die errors weg gaan. Ik ben alle Fallout 3 wapens uit het spel langsgelopen. Daarna heb ik alle pagina's afgelopen van items die ik in mijn inventory en storages in mijn huis heb. Toen ben ik alle quests die ik in mijn pipboy heb, langsgelopen. Daarna ben ik rond gaan lopen in Megaton en heb elke item die ik tegenkwam gecontroleerd op de wiki, waaronder ook de inventories van de winkeliers. Daarna ben ik alle personen uit Megaton langsgelopen (Alleen Walter en Stockholm hadden die error nog). Nu ga ik denk ik even wat anders doen ;D Dat waren een paar honderd pagina's... {{SUBST:Signature|Kennyannydenny}} 20:05, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Nog een update: Ik heb de rest van de personages gedaan en ook alle Fallout 3 creatures. Die hoef je dus niet meer langs te lopen. {{SUBST:Signature|Kennyannydenny}} 07:21, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Bridge tower Local Map Image[]

Hey Js, do you think you can get the local map image for the Bridge tower. ---bleep196- (talk) 17:04, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Apprentice[]

Why are you removing my images? ^{Some Assembly Required!} 17:58, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Ahhhh, I got you now. I was wondering what was up since I remember going to sleep with everything put into their proper places. :P Thanks for clarifying. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 18:12, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Infoboxes and The Professional perk[]

I just removed The Professional multipliers from the 10mm submachine gun (Fallout: New Vegas) page and Sleepytyme (GRA) page because they were conditional to the weapon. However, another thing is that they bonuses weren't being applied to the Crit DAM cell but the regular DAM. Is there a way to alter the template so we would be able to use the perk correctly in the infoboxes? From what I understand of the bug on The Professional's page it applies to all the critical hits the weapons affected by the perk make.

I don't understand the template coding so I can't change it myself. Great Mara (talk) 21:33, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Image permission[]

Hey Jspoelstra, how are things? I was wondering if I could have permission to edit and use an image you uploaded to this site. Specifically, [[File:Central sewers.png|this one]]. It's for my apprentice challenge this month. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 21:49, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Excellent, thank you. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 21:56, May 23, 2013 (UTC)

Wikia fix and templates with multiple images[]

Did Wikia already correct their error from the other day? It seems that when location articles are edited, only the size of the main images reverts to normal. Location pages I ust checked had small main images but the map images were still huge. Trying the edit and publish test with one of them again didn't fix the additional images either. Great Mara (talk) 20:19, May 24, 2013 (UTC)

Infoboxes[]

Hey Js it seems that the map image issues have been fixed, but the infoboxes are only being fixed after you edit them. Is there some way we can purge them so they are fixed automatically. ---bleep196- (talk) 14:26, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Would purging the template automatically fix it?---bleep196- (talk) 14:34, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

There is a link on all the template pages that says purge, when you click it the template automatically starts updating all pages that contain it. ---bleep196- (talk) 14:37, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah I hope it does to, will save us a lot of work. ---bleep196- (talk) 14:58, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Hahaha Very true. ---bleep196- (talk) 15:26, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

(←) Have you had any recent contact with Wikia about this issue? Any feedback on their progress? The Gunny   17:11, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

There must be some sort of "change" programmed in. What I can do is add an extraneous space at the end of an article that shouldn't have any visible change. I get my computer (and bot) back on Wednesday. --Skire (talk) 22:47, May 25, 2013 (UTC)

Change of heart[]

I was thinking about the film a little on my mini-holiday, and I had a change of heart. To be honest I disagreed about the film not having separate pages because it is not the same, however close it might be. To use an analogy, a scientist's life work, and a recent one at that, discovered that there was no such thing as a 'fish'. (Bear with me.) He discovered that there was as much genetic variety in what we deem fish as there are with land animals, it's just they have to be more similar in some ways simply because that is what life in the sea requires. Therefore, no matter how similar something is on the surface, it should not be simply lumped in with a pile of other 'similar' things for that reason alone. This is the point that I am driving at.

I disagree with putting all the film things into the same category as the others because they are 'close enough'. If we want to be the best, we need to ensure our information is accurate, detailed and accessible. To me, this means having relevant articles, rather than condensed sections in other similar-but-not-the-same articles.

Personally, I disagreed with what you said straight away, but didn't want to be a nuisance as soon as I got back. However, on review, this is not a decision that has sat well with me because I am not the kind of man to do things by halves in order not to make a fuss. I don't mind kicking up dust.

Therefore, I hope this has encouraged a change of heart from you, so that you will let me do what I originally set out to do. If not, I would ask your permission to open a forum to discuss the matter, though this will set me back and is not the preferable course of action in my opinion.

Thanks, Ci.

-- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 19:41, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

Just you watch :D -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 23:08, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Point Lookout Pale NPC Pictures[]

The characters Plik and Jacob Humboldt are both affected by the pale NPC bug and both of their pictures show their bugged models but not their actual/intended ones. I was wondering if you'd be able to upload pictures of their non-bugged appearance since I cannot since I don't have an account. If you have the bugged NPCs, I could send you links to pictures of their regular appearance that I can't upload 69.125.134.190 19:50, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

I have pictures for Plik and Jacob Humboldt that are from the actual game and are not bugged. I could send you the links so you could upload them. I might as well get one for Rip Smithy too. I'll also make the new wastelander pages soon, but I don't know how to delete the old one when I'm done getting info from it. 69.125.134.190 22:59, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

Here are the links: Plik: http://cloud.steampowered.com/ugc/882983254883686821/92DDC90D75FE8F19E338F631EC5A129216FCA1FC/ Rip Smithy: http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/882983254886327678/5B708D8FFC4C51C5D528824B184EB5250471EC8D/ and Jacob Humboldt: http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/882983254883685241/831459019D0BF6428646E39450F1A7920E71CC2A/ Thanks for letting me know how to do the Wastelander pages. I'll start on them soon. 69.125.134.190 23:22, May 26, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for splitting up those pages for me. I just went through and added some more stats. I'll probably add more info for the wastelanders in Fallout 3, as they play a larger role, mainly expanding locations, inventory and interactions. It would also help to get pictures. Some of them might be able to be included in Fallout 3 random encounters since a lot of unique wastelander models are linked with random encounters. 69.125.134.190 00:12, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Image[]

The image may be "okay" but is unneeded. It doesn't belong in the article for the same reason an entire paragraph of waffle which as already been said should be added. The image is pretty and all but adds nothing useful that isn't already there.
JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?" 00:52, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Just because previous useless images have been added doesn't mean all future ones should be, it means all previous ones should be removed. This is a nice image, yes, but not NEEDED in teh article in teh slightest; it adds nothing and even shows less of the area than the main image, which displays the whole town. I see no reason for this image to stay what so ever.JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?" 01:09, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Okay then. I've been meaning to get round to the audio files, been a bit busy recently with various uni stuff but I'll get on it soon. JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?" 22:04, May 27, 2013 (UTC)

Second Person[]

If something's from the guide but is second person, shouldn't it be edited to third person? 69.125.134.190 19:41, May 28, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Bot work[]

Hi J. I got my computer back just a few minutes ago. I'll get going with the <br /> task as well as other things. It's good to be back. --Skire (talk) 23:26, May 29, 2013 (UTC)

Those fixes are done for the perk pages. --Skire (talk) 02:18, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

On this note, and sorry for sticking my nose in, but J, you are aware that Two-Bears has a bot as well, aren't you? You didn't have to wait. I meant to say the other day. He learned Python and everything to be able to run that. Not looking to get anyone's back up, just thought I should remind you that the resources are there to share the load. -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 02:29, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Wastelander (Fallout 3) Image[]

I took a group shot of some wastelanders at the Wastelander campsite that can be used for the Wastelander (Fallout 3) page. I can send you the link to the image if you want to use it. 69.125.134.190 03:28, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Here it is: http://cloud-2.steampowered.com/ugc/920138415783754492/E1A58075BBF49CC220D19A98270D91DF05750671/ 69.125.134.190 19:01, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Pure Humans[]

Hey, J. I know that you're a bit against the pure humans page and all that, but I was wondering if you'd like to proofread my sandbox? I do value your insight, and I'm interested in knowing if you approve of the rough draft, or if you'd rather me take a different route. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 18:17, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Missiles[]

I removed them because they were randomized locations. Not to mention that we don't have Fortune Finder/Scavenger perk notes here, as they'd easily clutter the pages. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 21:04, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Ah, just checked back on the specific note you were wondering about. The note was too vague, simply saying that there were missiles there. Are they random? How many? Do enemies carry them, or are they found in ammo boxes? The information needs to be clarified before being officially added in. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 21:08, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Ghost[]

I agree. Remember we cannot remove them ourselves, we need to have someone from Wikia do it.--Kingclyde (talk) 21:46, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

Helps if I read the whole message huh? Yes, it's time. We haven't heard anything at all.--Kingclyde (talk) 21:47, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

While I regret the need to, I believe we need to abide by our policies here. You may use this as my endorsement to Wikia to go ahead and remove Ghost's BC rights per wiki policy. The Gunny   20:55, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

I believe as well it's time. The rules apply and we must go forward with this process.--Kingclyde (talk) 02:14, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Them silly navboxes[]

So I've been plugging away at them again and I've noticed that only one game has a navbox for the skills. What's up with that? There is a generic all encompassing "Skill" navbox but I might go ahead and make some game specific ones. What do you think?--Kingclyde (talk) 22:17, May 30, 2013 (UTC)

I do notice that the skill system works differently but the purpose of the navbox is if I am on say the Lockpick skill page and I wanted to jump to say the Energy Weapons skill page I was thinking maybe a navbox. Who knows. I'm just navbox happy. Lol.--Kingclyde (talk) 02:10, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Stuff[]

Hi J. Could you check by GECK perhaps whether the activation of Guess Who I Saw Today is a trigger for Oh Baby! to be spawned? There is some conflict on the page as to whether or not the weapon can be obtained before the quest. And also, is there more bot-work you need done? I still can't figure how to remove those project tags without leaving blank spaces >_> --Skire (talk) 23:27, May 31, 2013 (UTC)

I've tried a few things with no success, but I've asked a few other people about it and hopefully it will be set in a few days. And yes, all the characters pages are fixed already. Characters, perks, and locations. Anything else? --Skire (talk) 00:00, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Film[]

Right, I've done a few pages now, and seen as you gave me the go ahead, I'd like your opinion on the ones I have done. Anything and everything you think I need to take into consideration.

• Hero (film)
• Techy (film)
• Scholar (film)
• Female Officer (film)
• Vault 13 metro (film)
• L.A. Times (film)

-- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 00:43, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks for the input. Yes, I am considering that, but I'm just using the red links to highlight what I still need to do. Some of the pages where there are no fundamental differences I will simply add with the tags. Good to know you approve. -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 15:00, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Audio Files[]

I'm having trouble uploading the duologue files as the wiki only allows files smaller than 10mb to be uploaded, where all files I find are at least 20mb. What should I do? JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?" 01:15, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

My bad. The files are KB. They weren't uploading last time I tried so I assumes it was a file size thing. Tried another one now and it went up fine, so I dunno what the issue was. JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?" 18:31, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Vandal[]

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/79.179.208.230 -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 15:45, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Quotes[]

The quotes you're uploading don't have very useful titles, stuff like "nvdlc04aud_nvdlc04ulyssesb_0000cd6b_7" would be better suited with just "NVUylessesWhoAreYou" or something. Much shorter and easier to understand, and some of the quotes yo uploaded (Cass's Long Dick Johnson) the audio features more than the written quote, which is against the project guide lines.
Don't want to sound like I'm moaning or anything.
JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?" 22:36, June 1, 2013 (UTC)

Suspect edits[]

Hello J. I'm sorry, but I must say that the edits you have been making over the last five to ten minutes or so have piqued my curiousity. You see, not only are you making them at a rate of roughly 1 every 31 seconds, occasionally peaking at 4 per minute, but they are extremely bot like. As someone who knows AWB, it looks like your using that if I'm completely frank. That's the only way you could be lining up edits so fast, especially ones that are so negligible.

These two were made but seconds apart: (1) and (2).

I'm not going to push these accusations any further, but I would ask that you don't make edits such as those above, as I, and countless others, have been chastised for edits that are just so. Indeed, I remember you personally pulling me up on removing spaces. At any rate, they are of no benefit and can only be aimed at boasting your edit count and achievements.

None of this was meant in a frictious way, but I do feel it needed pointing out as no-one ever checks your edits anymore, and those who do simply let ones like those above slide due to your role here.

I hope you take this in the friendly, constructive manner in which it was intended. -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 23:50, June 2, 2013 (UTC)

I'm terribly sorry J, when I saw the messages notification I only read Gunny's for some reason. As I wrote on GoTW's TP I do have a plan to get rid of the lines (c'mon, I'm responsible!). A second program will go through and perform minor fixes, which includes removing extraneous white lines. I am now using my bot's contributions as the page list to ensure that it gets everything. The problem was that this second program somehow surpassed the first (despite me starting it later and having a longer timer). Again, sorry for any inconvenience. --Skire (talk) 00:03, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

In light of that and Danny's messages, I apologise. I'm sure you can see where I was coming from, but I was mistaken. -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 00:06, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Well, considering my (unintentional) lack of a response, blocking would've alerted my attention once I realised it from overseeing the bot. But now everything's good, and those white lines will be all gone once the second program runs through. Although I'm still not sure how it managed to pass the first program... Anyway, thanks for understanding. --Skire (talk) 00:22, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Comment.[]

Do what you will with it. I was just trying to improve the article. As for the comment, well, it gets old to put time into editing/correcting things in articles only to have someone run over top of me and deem it 'unnecessary'. Kind of discourages me from editing all together to be honest. 12:52, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Vandals[]

http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.54.124.210 http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/71.122.77.230 http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/99.25.78.106 (Possibly, but unsure) http://fallout.wikia.com/wiki/Special:Contributions/176.42.114.170

-- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 20:24, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Also, the Brandon thing.

This page is not a normal user page, as he has an edit, yet it hasn't registered and still says 'a wikia contributor'. 1

This page on the otherhand, is his real page: 2

The four and the eight are the wrong way around. So next time, maybe take what I'm saying and investigate, and you'll see that I'm not an idiot and actually do know what I'm doing. I should bloody hope so after two years (today, not that anyone noticed but me).

And for the love of God, ban these vandals. If you'd investigated that too, you'd have realised I've done a lot of reverts recently, and might ask yourself why!

-- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 20:32, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Apologies for the tone. I'm just getting very tightly wound. My Mum just went into hospital, and so I came on here to take my mind off it, and it's just been stressful instead. Shouldn't have taken it out on you though, so my sincerest apologies are to you -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 20:41, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Thanks very much, I'm sure it will be. And thanks (again), I'm sure she'll be alright, just worrying, you know? ANd I think you mean out of character, out of sorts generally means that you feel ill. All I'm asking is that next time, you trust my judgement. It's something that you don't normally do, and I can't understand why; I rarely make mistakes, and only ever place tags like {{delete}} when I'm absolutely sure. So it's all the more annoying when something like that is ignored. Will you please just trust me a bit in future? I do know what I'm doing :)

Again, apologies for the tone. You're right, it was out of character and unnecessary. -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 21:36, June 3, 2013 (UTC)

Update[]

All the tags have been removed and the blank lines as well. (I found a more efficient way to do it!) Also, could you take a look at this thread and other related discussions on his TP and let me know of what you think? Thanks a lot. --Skire (talk) 01:15, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

There is one more thing: could you give me permission to create an account that only serves to deliver {{Talkback}} to recipients? I am switching to talkback and I think it would be best if my contributions weren't littered with sending users these templates over and over. It would help me a lot. (My bot (because of the bot flag) does not produce the message notification when it delivers the template, so that won't work.) --Skire (talk) 02:26, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Good morning[]

Sorry to burst your bubble, but those images are for the Bleak House page, which, as you can see, is part of mine and Danny's project. It has nothing to do with the film. In fact, I've searched the internet for images for the film, and there are literally none, so you'll need to delete those categories. Sorry, I know I forgot to add the categories... -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 12:03, June 4, 2013 (UTC)

Template[]

Would it be possible to change the stats creature FOT template? Poison and Rad. Resistance should be included in the DT/DR column, and EMP should be removed since that damage type isn't used in FOT. Electrical damage type is used instead. There should also be an Item column like FO3 and FNV creatures have. Luvere (talk) 00:56, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Wow, that's awesome. Thank you! - Sorry, I forgot to sign again. Luvere (talk) 00:56, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Errors in the math in weapon infobox[]

I was adding crit damage perk effects to the {{Infobox weapon gamebryo}} when I realized that the math showing the total effect of all perks on the modified stats (the ones shown in parenthesis labeled "with all perks") is incorrect. Here's the jist:

Weapon	Base damage
.357 magnum revolver	26
Perk	Multiplier
Cowboy perk +25%	x1.25
Lord Death (tier 3) +4%	x1.04
Bloody Mess +5%	x1.05
Thought you died +10%	x1.1
Current infobox formula	Total dam w/all perks
26+(26*.25)+(26*.04)+(26*.05)+(26*.1)	37.2
Correct formula	Total dam w/all perks
26*1.25*1.04*1.05*1.1	39.04

The infobox is written so that it adds the individual perk bonuses to the base damage, when the game actually multiplies all the perk bonuses times the base damage. I've tested this in the past. I've completely deconstructed the whole damage formula (you can see it [[User:The_Gunny/sandbox#Full_damage_formula|here]]) and have actually written a damage calculator that outputs any weapon's damage given any combination of gameplay effects (perks, ammo, mods, chems, etc.). During testing of my calculator, I verified that all the perks "stack", or multiply together.

I also believe that other perk types like reload speed, etc. also multiply in the same way. I will test those to be certain, I'll probably have to re-write the entire perk section of the infobox. I will work it in my sandbox to correct the math so that it uses the proper formulas. The Gunny   01:01, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

hey thanks for clearing that finesse add I made, I didn't know I couldn't put strategies

(Fallout Tactics) articles[]

Sorry about the red links, but please don't link FOT items to FO1/2 items. The effects and value are not the same so I'm going to create new pages. I already did one, Stimpak (Fallout Tactics). Luvere (talk) 16:10, June 5, 2013 (UTC) (forgot to sign...again)

Fallout: Tactics[]

Can you actually give reasons for why not? I provided an argument with good reasons behind them, and just because they've been the same for 9 years is not an excuse to ignore proper conventions. I have to say that it more than annoys me when people say that I'm wrong without even providing reasons as to why. So I'll go ahead and reiterate upon mine:

• Fallout is the title, and Tactics is the actual game. We wouldn't write it out as Fallout Brotherhood of Steel, now would we? The same would be wrong if we said Fallout New Vegas. It's just improper. The only exception is if the game is called something like Fallout 1/2/3.
• Every single game-cover for Fallout: Tactics is completely void of being called 'Brotherhood of Steel'. Where are you getting that the game is called Fallout Tactics: Brotherhood of Steel, outside of fan-art and concept-art? I am going off of game covers here, and each and every variation is saying that the game is called Fallout: Tactics - A post nuclear tactical combat game.

^{Some Assembly Required!} 17:11, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Image request[]

Can I ask the master of images a favour? I am looking for a good bottle cap image with which to make an icon (to put in the games template (for featured articles)). Could you hunt down one for me? --Skire (talk) 19:38, June 5, 2013 (UTC)

Chat ban[]

I'd like to request a permanent chat ban on myself if possible, I used a censored version of f**got, and should be banned as everyone else would. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving 02:51, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

You may also wiki-ban me for using it in my previous statement.--TwoBearsHigh-Fiving 02:52, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

I should probably say, as the guy who told him not to, it should only be a kick at most but if he wants a ban then it;s your call. JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?" 02:56, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

I think you're right in a had a slight breakdown. I want to apologize first off, I will admit I still don't see what I did as that serious, but I knew it was against the rules and I said it anyway. I think I'm just going to lay off of the chat function for awhile. I'll focus more on editing and I think that will bring excitement back, as I want to be swinging fully for Fallout 4. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving 18:39, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Living to learn[]

I removed the rest of my youtube videos. I will worry about music on my page later.

• Spelling is always going to be my curse. The dyslexia is not an excuse. Yet I would like to explain it. The Last adult I.Q. test I took scored 136. That is not to shabby for someone who so avoided school as a child.

I did score remarkably high on vocabulary however. The real problem is I was a horrrid student. I rebelled and took playing hookie to a master's level art form.

• I had to get a waiver just to join the army due to my felony record of truancy.

It might terrify some here to know my first job in the army was military occupational specialty 13c TAC Fire Operations Specialist That is field artillery, fire direction center with Nuclear Chemical and biological fire as a mission specialty.

Thankfully I was never called upon to deliver any NBC ordnance on human targets but my point is, I was shocking, considered bright enough to be trained for such responsibility.

For me the dyslexia is particularly problematic because it is "intermittent". A condition that might have exisited when I was a child but it only became evident and or exacerbated with post traumatic stress disorder.

• When it is happening I can not see it. That is the nature of it. I will read and re-read a line six times and it will look fine. The next day I read it again and I could define nearly swear some one eles posted the scrambled words.
• Even on a good day spell check often lets my spelling slip by so the best I can do is continue to try my best.

There are thousands of editors on this wiki. I honestly wish for every page to appear as professional as possible but just as you said " no one is infallible ". I am not attempting to excuse myself. I am just suggesting maybe you take to much upon yourself. Typoes happen to every one and we clearly have enough editors to carry the load. Making it your personal responsibility to correct every one must be exhausting.

If you take it all on your self it will drive you insane.

• " No one is infallible " and we should all be here to support each other.

• There are many, many mebers who would love to up their edit count.

That said, roll backs and reverts don't help the page either when just a letter change or to would correct an edit. If patrolers find a trivial dropped letter or out of place punctuation mark, would it not be best to just make the minor edit instead of steam rolling it with a revert that ignores the intent of the edit.

Minor spelling errors happen to evey one and of course we should all always strive to be correct as possible but you are exausting your self and at times, I am sure you can see the patrolers might "at times" over use their revert powers when a minor edit would do better.

Aain, I am not trying to excuse my typoes. I swear. I am just asking you to cut your own self some slack before you burn out..

That said I will try to redoubled my own efforts.

I hope we can all work as a team ~ I thank you for your patience, time & effort.

SaintPain→ That was broke afore I got here." 08:21, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Hey J[]

Have you got a minute I can borrow in PM? -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 14:03, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

I just realised you aren't here. I'll be back this evening, around 7 your time with any luck, onwards into the night. Any time between then good for you? It'll only take a few minutes :) -- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 14:10, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Goeie Dag[]

Hey Jspoel, don't know if you remember me but I was a Patroller about a year ago. I'm trying to come back on here a bit now and help anything need doing? Hope you've been well. Kiwi 17:25, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Chat[]

This is a Fallout wiki, for a game that is for the ages 17+ or more in other areas of the world. There is strong language, and other things that aren't nice. With that being said, I think it is acceptable for me and others to say 'fuck' as many times as our hearts desire, withing the rules of course. ^{Hawk da Barber 2012 - BSHU Graduate} 18:19, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Go right ahead, it won't bother me. This wiki is for mature people, if they can't handle the word 'fuck' then they might be suited somewhere else. ^{Hawk da Barber 2012 - BSHU Graduate} 18:28, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Your point? I'm pretty sure kids these days curse more than adults, I think they couldn't give a fuck about saying the word 'fuck'. It's probably the most used word in their vocabulary, with some exceptions for other kids. If they are on this wiki, there must be a reason for it. Maybe playing the game? If they played the game, they can handle the word fuck. ^{Hawk da Barber 2012 - BSHU Graduate} 18:34, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Edit not counted.[]

I just made a revert and my edit number is still the same. Is this a bug or something because my 'edit count' marked my edit, but my profile didn't. --The Nuclear King (talk) 18:24, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Nevermind, Richie explained it to me; sorry for wasting your time. :P --The Nuclear King (talk) 18:33, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Chat[]

I'm sorry if you feel I was *ahem* "testing Ryan's patience" but I was merely enforcing our rules, if anyone I feel a guy who says "then ban me" after being warned not to do something is the one trying people's patience. The same rules everyone gets. It was him, not me that escalated it to asking for a permanent chat ban and a wiki ban, I was addressing his attention to the rules that everyone has to obey and I was expecting something closer to an "okay" or "sorry" as a normal user would reply.
I'm sure you can understand how I don't really feel comfortable with the way you're making me seem like the bad guy here, whether or not that is your intention (I'd like to presume not, as you're a mature adult and the like). Yes, you're right I do swear a lot, but no more than Desmond of Dukov. Fallout is a game that swears and there is nothing against doing so in the rules, if you wish this to be changed, there's the usual act of setting up a forum and proposing a change, but the way it stands now; the F-word I use is allowed and the F-word Ryan used (even censored) isn't.
Now, I'll be the first to admit I may not always be the most welcoming person, but I don't think it's the fact I swear that causes that. Maybe my sarcasm and snide-ness that I gained from 19years of being English doesn't come across all that well on some new members. If you have any comments against my chat behavior other than my potty mouth, I'll be more than glad to hear them.
But I don't think you can really say I'm the root of the issue here, I'll admit I may have been a catalyst and how I meet hostility with hostility surly doesn't help matters 9/10, but the problem here was that Ryan didn't want to hear me tell him the same thing I tell everyone who says what he said. The same thing all moderators (other than Hawk, who isn't an enforcer as much as some of us) would have told someone who said what he said. Now, yes he may have had a "rough day", and I can sympathise, I havn't exactly had a grand day today for example. But that is not an excuse for misbehavior in chat, for anyone, let alone an admin. You say that me and hawk swearing would create a poor image for the wiki, yet I feel a much worse image is one of admins who cant accept the same criticisms that we would give regular users.
I agree, that Ryan should not have received a ban (certainly not a permanent chat ban nor a wiki wide one), as what I gave him was just a warning. How was I to know he was having a rough day? And why should that allow him to break rules set out to make chat a better place for everyone? Should I not try to alert Admins, like Ryan who have been absent from chat for a while, when they're breaking rules? Does this mean he's immune to the rules just because I cannot enforce them personally?
I certainly hope you don't have it in your head I was out to get Ryan, as you read the logs you certainly saw that earlier on, when Relics was discussing who to contact to run a bot task for him, I actually recommended Ryan. Not because he has the more powerful bot, but because he'd appreciate it. Because it would make him happy. And the whole reason he even came in to chat was because of this situation. So the fact that I set out to first make a user happy, then enforce the rules I have been elected to enforce yet still come out branded as "testing his patience" rankly offends me.
You also pointed out that Ryan may elect to leave the wiki, which may in some part be down to my behavior in chat. Now, whither or not this is true is hardly my place to say, as I am somewhat biased. However, I wish to make it clear it is not in anyway my intention to drive away someone I consider a friend, especially over a petty argument such as this. Ryan also made it clear that he was intending to leave the wiki anyway, when he voiced comments such as "I remember why I don't come in this chat anymore.", "I would rather be in a chat with 10 Tagaziels and Todd Howard than this" and "I've been meaning to leave the Wiki anyway".
Honestly, although you would be right in saying that I hardly defused the situation as best I could, I'm not more at fault than Ryan is.
On a side note, if you do feel I;m at fault here, which is your opinion either way and I respect that, I hardly see it fitting for you to drag Hawk in to this, he may hardly have a fantastic bedside manner, but this had very little to do with him what so ever so I don't really see why you made him part of this.
JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?" 19:42, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

For the record, the only one in chat testing my patience was the user Greentextisbesttext. In the end, I think it was I who was the one who acted out of turn. Although I think the discontent expressed over my censored word was a bit much, it is a rule and Jasper was just being fair. And at the end of the day I'd rather be on a site where the admins have to adhere to rules as well. That first user got me quite annoyed, and from there it just fell apart. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving 19:58, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

I may have jumped the gun a bit on this one and assumed too much, I offer my apologies.JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?" 20:01, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

I just saw, thanks J. --TwoBearsHigh-Fiving 20:03, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Spaces[]

Hey J. I noticed that anonymous users' edits as of late have been leaving behind an extraneous blank line at the end of the section they edit. I have sent a message to Wikia about this. --Skire (talk) 22:19, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Indeed, hopefully. And while we are on the topic of blank spaces, my bot is still scanning through to fix the ones it skipped over. It turns out there were a lot more than I thought! --Skire (talk) 22:31, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

It's apparently not just anons, either, because I saw you had to fix Agatha's Song after I made an edit there, and I had to fix one of my own earlier today. --FFIX (talk) 23:25, June 6, 2013 (UTC)

Possible Name mistake[]

Hey I was just wondering, I think that the Name Wellinton Alves is incorrect because in the homepage link and the intro information have him as "Wellington" not "Wellinton". Thanks for your time. -- ^{You are worthy in the eyes of the High Elder} 01:01, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Question[]

Hey, Jspoel, could you pop into chat for a moment, I'm having an issue and I'd like to talk to you about it. Richie9999 (talk) 12:56, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Andrew[]

Alright no worries are there any new policies that have been introduced in the last year or so that I'll need to know of? I really need to get back into the swing of things! Kiwi 16:01, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Vid[]

Just played for me. No popout, just video. Agent c (talk) 18:25, June 7, 2013 (UTC)

Lily Quotes[]

I was checking your work on Lily's quotes for the peer review section and noticed this doesn't match up to what it should say, you may want to recheck this one. JASPER//"Do you like hurting other people?" 16:59, June 8, 2013 (UTC)

Robot Parts (Fallout 2)[]

I would really appreciate it if you could check out this page during a free moment. Not necessarily that important of a resource, but I'm looking forward to seeing the light at the end of the tunnel for this project. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 02:10, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

What the hell dude ? Why did you delete my edit ? Tavish30 (talk) 15:42, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Van Buren Stub Pages[]

Why did you undo my VB edits? Only quotes, dev documents, and quest-names are capitlized, even if utilizing improper nouns. Locations do not follow this same rule, and improper nouns are de-capped even for VB content, and I made sure to double-check the VB guidelines before making those edits. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 17:52, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

That makes sense, and I definitely understand that concern. I went through and fixed a large chunk of red-links that I had made last night, but unfortunately, I did have work today. So I'll be sitting down and finishing those VB stubs, and I'll make sure to have those red-links squared away and no longer a wiki blight. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 18:06, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Gunny taught me the error of my ways over abusing re-directs. I'd rather do things the proper way and have everything nice and tidy. If need be, I'll get Ryan or Skire to run through any red links that I'm missing. As for Cudder, I upped his ban because out of sheer defiance, he spammed his TP with external links. If you feel like his ban should be shorter after that shameful act, then you can go ahead and change it. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 18:22, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Spaceship images[]

Is there a page where those images would be appropriate? Thanks. --FFIX (talk) 21:20, June 9, 2013 (UTC)

Images[]

How are your image ethics? Was looking through some images earlier, and I couldn't help but wonder how great some of our images would look if they were ran through a filter. You know, make it hazy/smoky looking to portray that feeling of bleakness and dread. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 07:37, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

That's pretty interesting. I'll have to come up with some examples for you, but I was thinking about helping out with images when Fallout 4 comes out, now that I've moved from consoles to pc gaming, and how I can improve the quality of my images. Not sure if you saw or not, but I was having a lot of fun creating Fallout characters for some of the editors here at Nukapedia. ^{Some Assembly Required!} 16:05, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Yeah, I put down the challenge for a while because work was getting so hectic, but this week is opening up a bit more free time for me, so I'll have to start getting to work! I've put a lot of thought into yours. It's been a toughy, but I think I have a good idea of how I'll portray you. I'll see about getting another batch made out tonight with you as one, and see what you think. :D ^{Some Assembly Required!} 16:11, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

Infobox fix[]

OK. I'll wait until we hear back that the fix is good. Thanks,  The Gunny   23:45, June 10, 2013 (UTC)

My sandbox[]

No offense J, but please can you stop editing my sandbox. I understand there is some discrepancy between the redlinks I've left, but I will be binning that lot at the end, so there is no need for you to do it. Thanks for trying to help, but I know what I'm doing with my sandbox, so please stop changing it.

-- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 14:15, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

But my sandbox can be as untidy as I like; it's not making the wiki look any less tidy. I was aware of that, but I'm still deciding what pages to include. I might still do the LA suffix to distance it from this page, but I don't know. That's the point of my sandbox; to organise my ideas. I fully understand on the main space, and am very appreciative of you combing through the new pages after I've finished to add brackets and the like, but all I'm asking is that you leave my sandbox alone whilst it's in active use. I've nearly finished planning the final pages, so it won't be for long. I hope you can understand.

-- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 15:12, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Thank you very much. You've got yourself a deal. I'll have the creature pages and one of the last three characters left to do up at some point today :D

-- G͕͇̰͓̱̭̑̒̿̈́ͮ͌̓ͅO̝̪̯̲͖̦͔ͦ̉́̾̽T͓͖ͤ͊W̛̝̓̽ ^{Ù̻͉̽́s̛͒͌͒̄͐ͨě͍͉̦͙͇ͨ̈ͦ͢r̨̞͔̜̹̹̦̪ͨͤ͗̆͐͛ | T̯̙̀ͣͪ̀̔̚a̮̞͓͈͖̒l̿ͩk̢̲̬̱̬͉̲} 15:19, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Re:Videos[]

Ah, I see... Is the youtube extension permanently disabled or is it just temporarily not working? Either way, I guess the policy does need to be changed. Paladin117^{>>iff bored;} 14:20, June 11, 2013 (UTC)

Megaton[]

Megation to Megaton.Thanks for the deletion, the error doesn`t show up on preview, only on publish ? By then it`s too late.--1000HrsFallout3 (talk) 14:41, June 11, 2013 (UTC)