Talk: Pinkeraser44

Welcome to the Wiki![]

Hey Eraser, welcome to the wiki! Saw the work you’ve been doing on updating some of our Fallout 2 merchant articles, it’s very much appreciated! The Greatest Savior (talk) 01:54, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Protected Page[]

Hmm, that’s odd. In the future, if you see any protected pages that you don’t think should be protected, I believe that content moderators, administrators, and bureaucrats can change the protection level. Our current content mods are Intrepid, Brane, and Aiden and our bureaucrat is Jspoel. In the future you can contact them to change protection levels, undelete pages or images, and generally anything else that needs special tools to be done. As for the portal page, it looks like it’s only protected so that autoconfirmed/registered users can edit it, and you’re a registered user. Are you sure that you’re unable to edit it? The Greatest Savior (talk) 04:03, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

As an bit of additional information, the page you want to edit is here: Template:Wikiportal:Fallout 2/Contents. This is where the list is located. Hope it helps! -Eckserah ^{Head Dataminer} 04:06, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Yes, I am unable to edit Fallout_2, Portal:Fallout_2 and Template:Wikiportal:Fallout_2/Contents. Those pages only have a "View Source" button and do not have an "Edit" button. If I click on the "View Source" button, it just says:

You do not have permission to edit this page, for the following reason:
This page has been protected to prevent editing or other actions.

If I choose to look at the page at another language, the "Edit" button reappears. I will contact a content mod. Thank you both for the help. -Pinkeraser44 (talk) 04:34, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

Flick's[]

I don't agree with renaming Flick's Slum to Flick's slum. It's a proper noun. What I could go along with is naming it Flick's, like in Becky's and Tubby's. Jspoel 23:53, 9 July 2022 (UTC)

• Let me know what you think it should be and I'll revert it back or change it to Flick's and fix all the redirects. However, could you answer these questions then so I don't continue to make mistakes?
  • I thought it should be "Flick's slum" because is just a descriptor for the official name. Flick isn't actually call his store "Flick's Slum". People call it "Flick's" but its a slum. Here are some other Fallout 2 locations with the same situation (have possessive proper nouns). Are they wrong? If they are right, can you please explain why.
    • Vortis' holding center, Sheriff's_department_(Redding), Gecko's nuclear power plant, Mercenaries' cave
  • Now these don't have have possessive in the name but are these also wrong? If they are right, can you please explain why.
    • Modoc tannery, Gecko junkyard, Den_Brotherhood_outpost, Sub-amenities office, Amenities office, Greeting office, Access tunnels
  • I created the following pages and now wonder if they need to be changed?
    • Smitty's junkyard
    • Dr. Fung's clinic: the dialogue and scripting files don't actually name it, I just choose this name as a descriptor for "Dr. Fung's". I don't know if it is technically a hospital, clinic, medical facility or whatever but thought "clinic" was a helpful descriptor for the location. In that sort of case, should we just name the location "Dr. Fung's"?
    • Modoc trading post: all of Jo's dialogue files refer to it in the lower case
    • Broken Hills caravan office
  • I thought Renesco's Pharmacy and Salvatore's Bar were correct because these are the official names that those locations actually call themselves.
  • I hope you don't take all of these questions the wrong way, I am just trying to learn what to do moving forward. :) I searched in the Fallout_Wiki:The_Vault_Academy beforehand but couldn't find any capitalization stuff. All I could find were these really old completed projects Fallout_Wiki:Anti-capitalization_project and Fallout_Wiki:Anti-capitalization_project-part_2. If these are any fallout wiki pages that go into these formatting styles stuff, that would be appreciated.

(←)  As I can't find Flick's Slum to be named like that change it to Flick's then. From all these pages you mention probably most of them have been named as best as could be, sometimes found through dialogue, store sign and such. As far as I can see all the names are ok, some capitalized, some downcapped. All look good as they are. You can find some cap rules on Fallout_Wiki:Editing_guideline#Capitalizing. Jspoel 14:39, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

We could also just choose to name the store Kwik N Save, moving it from the pre-war company page you created. It's debatable it's a pre-war company anyway, and just be the name Flick gave it. Jspoel 14:41, 10 July 2022 (UTC)

(←)  Ok, will do. Thanks for the feedback.

• I think "Flick's" makes more sense than "Kwik N Save". The location it is called by everyone in-game is "Flick's". The only reference to "Kwik N Save" I found was in script comments, not in any in-game dialogue.
• Thanks for the link, I'll read through Fallout_Wiki:Editing_guideline
• In the future, where is the correct location to solicit feedback/consensus on a proposed change, other than a page's talk page?
• Pinkeraser44 (talk) 01:37, 11 July 2022 (UTC)

Page protection[]

As much as I'd like to take credit, I believe Eckserah beat me to it! If you ever run into a page that is protected and you'd like access, feel free to ping me again.

intrepid3597/14/22 4:06am CT

Re: Flick[]

Sure, go ahead. The word originally on the page was "Flicks" so I thought that was referring to the shop. FDSMDP (talk) 20:34, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

• I gotcha, thanks Pinkeraser44 (talk) 20:35, 19 October 2022 (UTC)

Template[]

I'd recommend asking Technical Moderator Eckserah. He should be able to fix that for you. I'm guessing the issue is that there doesn't seem to be anything defined for medical services, and the heal parameter seems to have two conflicting definitions.

intrepid35910/28/22 1:31pm CT

• Ok thanks! Pinkeraser44 (talk) 18:58, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Thanks for making me aware of this. I'll take a look and see what I can come up with for some of it. -Eckserah ^{Head Dataminer} 19:30, 28 October 2022 (UTC)

Best practices[]

1. |Medical overrides the normal sorting and places the Fallout 2 medical locations category at the M, instead of the F.

2. Yeah, 275px is a tad too large, especially for rather square images. I'd use 220px or 240px.

3. Yes, I removed the Fallout 2 locations category because the hospital is already in the category below it, Broken Hills.

4. Manager's office is not a proper noun; so we downcap the page name, see Fallout Wiki:Editing guideline#Capitalizing. I renamed your page because Gecko isn't necessary, and there are no other manager's offices in other games. Unlike NCR junkyard, as there are many more other junkyards. So that page needs the starting NCR. You can create the page. Jspoel 14:11, 30 October 2022 (UTC)

• I see, thanks. Pinkeraser44 (talk) 01:00, 31 October 2022 (UTC)

Capping words[]

Hey, sorry, i was confused during that time, and since we uncap alot of other stuff, i thought skills and stuff were to be uncapped as well, sorry for the trouble, didnt mean to cause any! FreshYoMama | Talk 04:59, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

• Ok thanks. Pinkeraser44 (talk) 05:25, 12 January 2023 (UTC)

Spacing[]

Sorry for trouble again if i caused any. A way to avoid these issues is by using Source mode (not the same as Visual Source). If you would like to learn how to use it, then just leave me a message. FreshYoMama | Talk 04:09, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

• No problem. Now that I know what is causing that problem, I'll be able to avoid it better. Thanks. Pinkeraser44 (talk) 19:40, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

my bad[]

my bad again, sorry for the trouble. FreshYoMama | Talk 19:44, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

No problem, thanks. Pinkeraser44 (talk) 20:03, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

actually, if you used edit summaries, per our policies, these issues could be avoided entirely. please start using them in the future FreshYoMama | Talk 20:50, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Will do. Pinkeraser44 (talk) 22:12, 13 January 2023 (UTC)

Arroyo collapsed tables[]

Hey man, thanks for all of the work you've been continuing to do on the Fo2 articles. Generally, we prefer tables like those ones on the Arroyo page to start off open instead of collapsed for Search-Engine-Optimization purposes. It's not a hard rule or anything, just generally prefer them open rather than collapsed. Up to you, though, if you think the page will be easier to read/navigate if they're auto collapsed then that's ok. Savior DJ (talk) 04:08, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Thanks for letting me know. Will do. Pinkeraser44 (talk) 06:02, 14 January 2023 (UTC)

Worldmap[]

Hey Pink, thanks for the message! I did some digging and I believe it's from the Vault-Tec Labs research on the matter. It actually has a wealth of information on the subject and from limited testing, the values appear to be correct (the game does do the worldmap on a tile basis). I'm generally leaning towards trusting Russian modders on the subject, as TeamX did a *ton* of work reverse-engineering Tim Cain's engine. :)

BTW, thank you for your contributions! It's a pleasure to see someone take an interest in the Old Games(tm) :D

(if you would like to clean up the VT Labs wiki, just ping me, I'll give you the proper rightS) 【Ｔａｇａｚｉｅｌ】 ☏ 08:33, 26 January 2023 (UTC)

Scripts[]

The scripts come from two sources: The script library packaged with the Fallout 2 Mapper on release (the uncompiled SSLs, so that we have any dev notes intact) and from reverse-engineered compiled scripts (the INTs), from the released game - both are there, because the Mapper ones were stated to be a little outdated? Anyway, both are legit. Might be worth checking if the GOG/Steam versions don't actually carry the modern patches. 【Ｔａｇａｚｉｅｌ】 ☏ 10:43, 7 February 2023 (UTC)