Talk: Mob (entity)

split page[]

i think this page should be split between hostile and human mob. reason: they where two separate entities --173.180.201.172 20:05, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

... This page is only about the human mob... that the behavior changed in versions is irrelevant, and still belongs on this page. FVbico (talk) 20:21, 31 May 2020 (UTC)

Oppose They look and are commonly called exactly the same, and when they were "split" between Mob and Monster they couldn't be spawned legitimately, so split is not warranted. Sagessylu (discuss | edits) 12:01, 11 August 2020 (UTC)

Very Weak Support 00001H^{add witty comments to his inbox}_{see what he had done} 03:13, 9 August 2021 (UTC)

Weak Support xrup (Talk)

10:38 4.3.2021

Support I agree 193.188.114.194 04:41, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose. Not enough content to warrant two stand-alone articles. Amatulic (talk) 18:05, 31 October 2021 (UTC)

Oppose.Most definitelt Not enough content to warrant two stand-alone articles, would only cause confusion. Draglorr (talk) 18:05, 28 January 2022 (UTC)

Replace hyphens (-) with dashes (–)[]

The page is protected, so I cannot make any edits to the page. Can an admin replace the hyphens with dashes in the See also section? Fadyblok240 (talk) 04:46, 24 August 2020 (UTC)

Just wait, the page is going to be unprotected in early sep.---Humiebee^{Discuss anything with me Look at my edits} 20:16, 29 August 2020 (UTC)

Done. Blockofnetherite ^{Talk Contributions} 17:25, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Make sure vegeta does not come back[]

The following discussion about a vandal is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

This is just a conversation at this point.Humiebee^{talk contribs} 23:45, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Now that this page is unprotected again, make sure that the vegeta troll does not start vandalizing here again. If you notice any vegeta accounts edit warring, than you might have to protect it again. James Haydon (talk) 21:41, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Well, there are now grasp members (ex:markus rost, frisk, madminecrafter12) patrolling the page creation log and they also targeted the rana page, not this one :p---Humiebee^{Discuss anything with me Look at my edits} 21:44, 16 September 2020 (UTC)

Oh god hes back now. James Haydon (talk) 22:01, 20 November 2020 (UTC)

He is unfortunately back.--ShaughnPlays14 (talk) 20:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Can this page be protected again?--ShaughnPlays14 (talk) 20:02, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

This is so annoying. I am trying to revert the vandalism. Can someone rollback? K1401986 ^{Talk with me} ^{My edits} 20:05, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

It got semi-protected for 6 months while the other pages they vandalized got a 1 month protection, so we are in the safe for now. James Haydon (talk) 21:42, 5 January 2021 (UTC)

Unfortunantly, semi-protection only protects against ip's. The vegeta guy makes accounts, bypassing semi-protection.Humiebee^{talk contribs} 22:41, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

That is a dissapointing fact but there recently has been an Abuse filter put in place that blocks users who tries to add the word vegeta to any page and that looks for accounts that are named vegeta, idk if its still active but it was effective in some way. James Haydon (talk) 22:46, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

True, abuse filter 53 is active and it says Block persistant vandal. It is private though but it probs is like block anyone with Vegeta as well as like implementing anything to the history page of Human (like human being added back) The abuse filter has blocked 2 vegetas so it is working and it is active :)Humiebee^{talk contribs} 22:50, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

They are also not smart enough to make accounts that are NOT named vegeta 🤣

Well, they tried a month ago by renaming their accounts to "BowsetteQueen" and "KurumiTomisaki" but the number spam in their usernames alerted us pretty quickly. They also made use of a bunch of IP's in their most recent spree. James Haydon (talk) 22:55, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Really? They didnt make any edits or so it seems... I might make a whole subpage in my sandbox to count the sockpuppets in the block log.Humiebee^{talk contribs} 22:57, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

You should make that subpage lol, just to take count of how many sockpuppets they make. They are very dedicated at what they do lol. James Haydon (talk) 23:00, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

How about the more obscure socks like BowsetteQueen?Humiebee^{talk contribs} (UTC) 23:04, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

There is only one BowsetteQueen sock so far, same case with KurumiTomisaki. Guess they had to revert to old ways. James Haydon (talk) 23:05, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I know but like are there anymore? I know there is 1 BowsetteQueen with that name but do you know anymore?Humiebee^{talk contribs} 23:06, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

You might have to search it up or look in the block log. James Haydon (talk) 23:08, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

I'm working on the subpage, here is an example of the block log right after the original account got blocked for breaking rule 3 (yes they did break rule 3 on my talk page)Humiebee^{talk contribs} 23:40, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Can we please end this discussion? This is only giving the troll attention; tgat's what they want. Don't feed the trolls. Dhranios (talk) (Join the wiki videos project!) 23:42, 7 January 2021 (UTC)

Can someone revert the vandalism on this page?[]

Please.--ShaughnPlays14 (talk) 20:01, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Done, and protected. Nixinova T C 20:29, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Thank you so much.--ShaughnPlays14 (talk) 20:30, 1 January 2021 (UTC)

Human mob behavior in Infdev 20100618 is different than described in the article[]

I had originally posted this in the official Minecraft Wiki Discord and it was suggested that I post it here.

The Wiki article states that the "Mob" version of the Human had no movement AI and thus could not move (except for looking around and rising in water) when they were made available again in Infdev 20100316. However, once hacked into the game using an NBT editor in Infdev 20100618 they don't exhibit the behavior described above. The "Mob" variant seems to be able to move around freely and does not attack the player, even when the difficulty setting is changed (makes sense, the "Monster" variant is documented as hostile).

Might need more testing.

Testing the behavior of the "Monster" variant of the Human mob is yet to be conducted.

NOTE: As another Wiki member has pointed out to me, the ability of the "Mob" variant to move might be due to the way I have spawned them. In order to spawn the "Mob" I edited the NBT data of another entity, in this case "FallingSand". Now, "FallingSand" doesn't possess certain NBT values, such as 'Death Time' and 'Health', but when the ID of the entity is changed the game seems to auto-generate those fields and correct itself, depending on the entity ID. This is heavily experimental and will be followed up with more testing.

Here is the link to a video I uploaded showcasing the behavior - https://youtu.be/9ptelnxkJrA

Now, I only tested this in Infdev 20100618 because it is the only Infdev version available in the launcher. I might test in other Infdev versions if I get my hands on them.

PetarKrešimirV (talk) 10:08, 9 April 2021 (UTC)

Updated walking animation GIF[]

I've recreated the human's model + animation 1:1 via reverse engineering, however the page is currently locked for uh.. A fair amount of time. I'm wondering if anyone with edit permissions can add my render as an update to the old one please (probably in-place of the default steve render currently there? shrug).

https://web.archive.org/web/20230514114602/https://i.imgur.com/aY2Fl7B.gif

--Constachugga (talk) 09:56, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Done. Thanks for the render. Deshman-gpuser (talk) 14:41, 21 April 2021 (UTC)

Possibility of human mobs returning?[]

The human mobs may have been removed long ago and replaced by villagers and piglins, but is it possible for humans to return to the game from scratch (not with its original AI since its old AI has been removed)? If they're unique from villagers and piglins, they may work for the game. GurgiFan57 (talk) 18:49, 31 May 2021 (UTC)

Who knows? Minecraft Earth has a Mob of Me which is similar. Perhaps that can migrate back into the base game. Amatulic (talk) 02:12, 1 June 2021 (UTC)

Merging Rana, Steve (mob), Black Steve, and Beast Boy into this page[]

The merge request has been up for a while now on the pages mentioned in the title. The reason given is that they are "actually the same mob as the Human, just that the models was changed during Indev before becoming the Human again." They would obviously have their own sections on the page and their original pages would redirect to these sections. However, it may be confusing with all the pages being together. -Yekulten (talk)

Let's split the page[]

These two mobs are completely different. 2 years have passed and we didn't even split this page yet.