Talk: Religion

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Should we put anything about James or his wife being Christians? They had that Bible verse.

Just because someone reads scripture, it doesn't mean they're Christian. Best regards, Kastera ^talk 21:30, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Bright Brotherhood[]

Should we include the Bright Brotherhood in the Fallout: New Vegas religions? Or are they more of a cult?

Cult = Religion _Tagaziel ^(call!) 22:01, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

So is that a yes? Should we add it? (By the way, cults and religions are technically both the same, as they are ways of thought and belief, you are right about that; however, a religion is mainstream, whereas a cult is underground) Best regards, Kastera ^talk 22:09, March 17, 2011 (UTC)

Yes, it's a yes. Cult and religion is synonymous. Both concern belief in imagined entities whose existence isn't corroborated by any scientific evidence. _Tagaziel ^(call!) 08:43, March 18, 2011 (UTC)

Why were my edits removed?[]

I added several entries on minor cults that are either mentioned in dialogues or in lore, like that one guy in Caesar's Legion mentioning that his tribe used to worship dogs before Caesar came and conquered them, or the fact that there are several instances of characters worshiping Lovecraftian deities (in FO3, in Dunwich building, the ghouls worship the obelisk; in Point Lookout it's implied that the local rednecks worship Lovecraftian deities, hence why you have to get that book from them in a related minor questline; likewise, in FO4 there's a vision\ flashback featuring a group of people gathered for some kind of worship ritual at the Dunwich Company quary). So why were they removed? Ditto my page on the Lovecraftian deities. Corbul (talk) 00:23, 3 December 2021 (UTC)

References[]

References that are written in a meta context are not post war.--Ant2242 (talk) 01:01, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

The Island is the proper way of referring to it, and it isn't the only location to be renamed post war. There's no reason to keep trying to deadname the Island in articles when you don't do the same in your edits to locations like Novac and the Citadel. Great Mara (talk) 01:30, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

The meta context that is this reference "The entire story of the Church of the Children of Atom on Mount Desert Island in the Fallout 4 add-on Far Harbor." is the same as if you were to have this referenced someplace "The entire story of the Church of the Children of Atom in Massachusetts in Fallout 4." It's a meta reference.

--Ant2242 (talk) 03:05, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

The overarching context is that the Island is not called Mount Desert Island anymore. Everyone knows what the Island means, just like the Nucleus and the Citadel. Great Mara (talk) 03:17, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

that location can be referred to as Mount Desert Island or the Island. it's really fine. 'mount desert island' not more right just because it is more technically correct to pre-War culture. if one of you is correct it is the one arguing for 'the Island,' because that is what people casually call it post-War, but i gotta say, it might be a stretch to call that policy over personal preference. i don't see how anything is actually gained by codifying their use so rigorously. it's not even a problem to use both terms on one page. it's actually appealing to employ varied language where the text supports it.--Anachorite (talk) 06:07, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

But the text doesn’t support it, he is trying to use the pre-War name for a post-War character in a renamed post-War location. Great Mara (talk) 12:10, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

ah, does the phrase Mount Desert Island not appear in the text...? i'm only now realizing it might be named from real-world context, which is obviously improper when there's a consistent in-universe term.--Anachorite (talk) 17:41, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

Its appearance is limited to old facilities and terminals on the Island. Island residents post-War only refer to it as the Island. Great Mara (talk) 19:30, 10 May 2023 (UTC)

then i don't think it's outrageous to deploy it occasionally--especially artfully, in passing, like "the Island known as Mount Desert Island before the war"--but 'correcting' every mention of the Island to its pre-war name is obviously not appropriate.--Anachorite (talk) 23:13, 10 May 2023 (UTC)