Talk: Glossary of common wasteland terms

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References for words with obvious meanings[]

Are these really necessary? Pretty sure everyone immediately knows what a “whore” is referring to. Great Mara (talk) 15:39, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

I agree, any source using an outside dictionary should be taken off, IMO. AllYourFavorites (talk) 16:10, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

It's there to prevent confusion and well within our policy.--Ant2242 (talk) 18:13, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Confusion of what? The other definition of common words, such as whore? Redundant references for obvious things are useless bloat and look like the people making the page were wearing a dunce-cap at the time. This is up there with the citation of the Enclave being called the Enclace in levels of idiocy. Great Mara (talk) 21:48, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Agree with Great Mara and AYF on this one. I think this article should focus on words unique to Fallout games. kdarrow ^{take her for a spin!} 22:10, 20 March 2021 (UTC)

Agreed with Kate. We aren't Wookiepedia making entire pages explaining real-world biological concepts like sex and female anatomy; we shouldn't have to define common real-world slang like "hooker", "junkie", or "punk" for our readers. The Chairmesection contains a bunch of these. --DirtyBlue929 (talk) 01:03, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

We are not Wookiepedia, we are only including words and phrases used in Fallout. We have it referenced the terms, just as we do to our lore, according to our policies.--Ant2242 (talk) 07:47, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

You seem to misunderstand my comparison. Wookiepedia absolutely limits itself to things that appear in Star Wars. They just needlessly explain basic real-world concepts like human biology, on the basis that "well, technically it appears in the franchise, and it's our job to explain everything that appears in the franchise, which is why we need to have an entire page dedicated to explaining what breasts are and listing every species that has them". Except it really shouldn't be their job to explain basic real-world concepts like that, just as it shouldn't be our job to explain to our readers what "baby", "broad", "cool", or "punk" mean - those are basic, common, everyday words in the english language. --DirtyBlue929 (talk) 18:57, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

References for common words not unique to the games are not needed and not called for in the policies. Great Mara (talk) 12:56, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Faction split[]

On a different note, anyone else think we should split off the Children of Atom section into its own page? There seems to be enough terms there for a sub page.--Ant2242 (talk) 07:49, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

I split the faction specific terms into its own sub page.--Ant2242 (talk) 09:04, 21 March 2021 (UTC)

Revert?[]

Why the revert? Is there a policy that states we cannot also add a target to a term even if it has its own page? Also that definition for "gentile" seems a selective on who can use it, and incorrect biased on who (Joshua Graham) in game uses it and their context for using it.--Ant2242 (talk) 02:25, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

For the context, I would say leave any mention of specific religion out of it. Define it as "outsider" per context of quote. For linkable template, it is unnecessary if the article already exists. Linkable is only used for those terms that do not have their own article. Let me know if you have further questions. -kdarrow ^{take her for a spin!} 06:41, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

In your current definition it is states that it only refers to persons not Jewish. Which isn't true. The previous version had its origin through the Latin "Gens" and appropriate Wikipedia links.

Why must it only be used as such? Is there a policy or is this a preference?

--Ant2242 (talk) 07:18, 22 May 2021 (UTC)

Here is a link to the definition "gentile" before its reclassification.--Ant2242 (talk) 05:20, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

For the definition, I think that is fair. I edited it to say outsider or nonbeliever instead of noting religion(s), mirroring the reference quote which does not mention specific religions. For linkable, I am not familiar with the way you have used the template, you will have to point me to the policy you are following so I can review. The policy I am referring to is here, syntax outlined here - our {{linkable}} template is an {{anchor}} equivalent. -kdarrow ^{take her for a spin!} 05:24, 23 May 2021 (UTC)

I don't see how removing its origin is necessary, but...whatever. I also don't see that it cannot be done in those pages. Am I missing something?--Ant2242 (talk) 05:53, 23 May 2021 (UTC)