Talk: Glow Berries

Split the page[]

The following discussion of a proposed split is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

The result of this discussion was Do not split.
This suggestion is closed. Okay. I suggested this without thinking, but now I know it's not a good idea. Pneuma01 (talk) 12:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I think it would be better to separate the pages. Because the berries and the vines are named differently in the Lang file. Pneuma01 (talk) 04:11, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

I Oppose to this idea. See the Sweet Berries article, where both edible item and bush block are on the same article. Supeika (talk) 04:18, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Oppose. They're name differently, but at least as of now, cave vines are essentially the block form of glow berries. We've recently reaffirmed our desire to keep the block and item form of different plants (see the seed vs crop block debate a while back), and I see no reason to not do that here.– Unsigned comment added by PancakeIdentity (talk • contribs) at 20:49, February 3, 2021 (UTC). Sign comments with ~~~~

Weak Oppose, as although the food item and the blocks are different along with their Lang files, I consider consistency with articles like the Sweet Berries article better. Blockofnetherite ^{Talk Contributions} 05:50, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Oppose Cave Vines are the block form of Glow Berries, just like how Wheat crop is a block form of Wheat Seeds. Using "Pick Block" on them gives Glow Berries, and using Glow Berries will place them. --Underfell Flowey (talk) 07:26, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Although glow berries are the item form of the block, the block is actually called a cave vine, so either the page is split (probably not) or it should be renamed to cave vines Hbop5008 (talk) 08:34, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Oppose per consistency on

Strong oppose because we know what happened last time. - User-12316399 (talk) 12:37, 4 February 2021 (UTC)

Oppose because they are the same block, is like separate the carrot and the carrot plant, or the seeds and the wheat. SlagofYT (talk) 17:29, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

The above discussion is closed. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made in a new section.

Change Name[]

I can see the reasoning behind keeping glow berries and cave vines on the same page, but should we change the name if we do? This would be consistent with the page for seeds and the wheat plant, which uses Wheat Seeds as the title. PegasusDust (talk) 20:37, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Comment The page Wheat Seeds uses the name of the item as a page title. This is already the case with the glow berries page since glow berries are the item. This is also consistent with the Sweet Berries page. As such your request doesn't make sense as you are contradicting yourself.ChainofNothing (talk) 21:05, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

No, the item name is just "seeds," at least in Bedrock Edition. Anyways, I feel like there should be at least some mention of cave vines in the title of the page for convenience when looking up the block form. PegasusDust (talk) 21:09, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Comment Ah, I undertsand the confusion. In Java, which is the standard for naming pages on this wiki, they are called "Wheat Seeds". As for the mention of cave vines on the page: "Cave vines" redirects to the page and they are described in the second line with the name even bold. ChainofNothing (talk) 21:20, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

That might be enough, though I figured I should bring up the question. Thank you for the information and opinion! PegasusDust (talk) 21:45, 6 February 2021 (UTC)

Renewability[]

I think glow berries should be renewable because they can be grown. Glow berries grow on cave vines, and cave vines can be bonemealed to grow more berries. And bonemeal is renewable because it is made from bones dropped by skeletons (and dropped by fish). Hipposgrumm (talk)

How do you get cave vines in the first place though? (Single Biome does not count)Humiebee^{talk contribs} 18:32, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Oppose for the same reason as Lava Bucket Blockofnetherite ^{Talk Contributions} 20:47, 11 March 2021 (UTC)

Pro as lava is now renewable -- the first obtaining is not an argument as everything need to be find first GuiTaek (talk) 22:00, 11 July 2021 (UTC)

A renewable ressource is a ressource you can get infinatly in vanilla Survival in a regular world. Nevertheless, this discussion is no longer relevant as Glow Berries can be obtained. The reason I'm posting this is to clarify your definition of a renewable ressource @GuiTaek. --- MetalManiacMc at your service fellow human! (talk) 09:03, 12 July 2021 (UTC)

@Ahh, so I revived an old discussion huh? I guess I understand now the point, thanks for the explanation GuiTaek (talk) 20:32, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

"there are 3-10 glowberries in the mineshaft-chest"[]

@SansIsFunny I think you found it in the whole chest, didn't you? In this table, as far as I know, this number indicates the number of items in one slot, so if there are multiple slots, where there are glowberries, then they stack of course. – Unsigned comment added by GuiTaek (talk • contribs). Sign comments with ~~~~

Yea, they were not in one slot.– Unsigned comment added by SansIsFunny (talk • contribs). Sign comments with ~~~~

so could it be, that the numbers are not conflicting with what you experienced? GuiTaek (talk) 20:32, 13 July 2021 (UTC)

Obtaining with Silk Touch[]

I tried to add a note to the wiki regarding obtaining glow berries from cave vines when using silk touch. If you have a tool with silk touch, you will obtain a glow berry when harvesting the vine, even when there are no glow berries appearing on the vine. I tested this on Xbox and PC using the latest Minecraft 1.18.0. My change was instantly reverted as "not true." Can anyone else verify they do get glow berries when mining empty cave vines? Maybe this is something unique to Bedrock? – Unsigned comment added by 73.35.163.21 (talk) at 01:59, 4 December 2021 (UTC). Sign comments with ~~~~‎

I have added it back with a qualifier about being in Bedrock Edition. Amatulic (talk) 04:23, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I am the editor that reverted your edit. I want to apologize for my arbitrary action, because I almost exclusively play Java Edition, and I know the Silk Touch trick on glow berries doesn't work on Java. I should have considered that you are talking about Bedrock Edition and might not realize it is a Bedrock-exclusive feature. I do want to note that it's better for you to use the qualifier ‌^{[Bedrock Edition only]} for features that you are not sure whether Java Edition has it. Windwend (talk) 06:40, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

I am wondering if this section is necessary, even after reading this discussion. I was under the impression that mining empty cave vines always drops glow berries, even without Silk Touch. This will require some testing to confirm, and this may be a Bedrock Edition exclusive feature. I feel like I read that both editions operate this way, though, and I'm pretty sure that Sweet Berries have the same mechanics as well. Maybe I am wrong, though, since i just read that page and it doesn't say anything about this. PegasusDust (talk) 18:36, 4 December 2021 (UTC)

Glow Berries can be "tended" to grow more.[]

After cutting the tip of a glow berry vine that was growing in front of my workshop(hippie cave, dont ask) I noticed that it grew back and moreover it grew even longer than before. After checking the age stat on the vine I noticed that whenever you cut the tip of the vine it will unreliably change the age of it, sometimes cutting it down from 25 to 3 or from 15 to 19. I am playing on java version 1.18.1. I would make a issue raport on the bug tracked but I don't feel like making a jira account just for one issue.

I would love if you could actually take care of the vines to make them grow longer and produce more berries but as it is now its just a weird bug with updating age on the other parts of the vine.

Remuluson (talk) 21:34, 26 December 2021 (UTC)

Cave Vines are not givable in Bedrock[]

The data values table for Bedrock shows that the three Cave Vines blocks are givable, but they do not appear in the tab completion list when entering a /give command and typing them manually results in an "Unexpected" error message. The footnote for givable items therefore needs to be removed. I would do it myself, but I don't know where the {{ID table}} gets its details from and I'm not inclined to spend time digging into it. <rant>Isn't a wiki supposed to be editable by ordinary wiki users? I understand the need to make maintenance as easy as possible, but I don't think it should be at the expense of editors outside a closed circle of elites.</rant> – Unsigned comment added by Auldrick (talk • contribs) at 16:44, 6 September 2022‎ (UTC). Sign comments with ~~~~