Talk: Bedrock Edition

Move[]

Should we move this to Bedrock Edition? It's basically done and that page is needed. – Nixinova 05:07, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Personally speaking, a place for information about yourself is not the best place for an article’s draft. — BabylonAS (talk | ru.Wiki Admin) (fka NickTheRed37) 16:57, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

Yeah, feel free to move this to Bedrock Edition. I only put it on my userpage because the whole edition-renaming thing hadn't started yet and there wasn't enough info about what was happening to officially make a page for it yet. SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 18:03, 15 August 2017 (UTC)

 Moved – Nixinova 04:17, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

Well, now I can't access my userpage because it redirects to Bedrock Edition. How do I fix that? SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 15:07, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

 Fixed. --Pepijn (talk) 15:23, 17 August 2017 (UTC)

What's up with Apple TV not currently being considered "Bedrock"???[]

Currently, Apple TV is listed as an upcoming platform for Bedrock Edition. This makes no sense. Apple TV isn't currently on some kind of "legacy Pocket Edition" or something. Minecraft on Apple TV has always been on the same codebase - the Bedrock codebase. Saying that it currently runs Pocket Edition is incorrect. Pocket Edition was never officially the title of anything but Pocket Edition, which was Bedrock on Android, iOS, Fire OS, & Windows 10 Mobile. The naming across the wiki should reflect this. Anything Bedrock-related should use the name Bedrock regardless of whether it refers to pre-1.2 or not... UNLESS the content is specific to the actual Pocket Edition. There are several examples of incorrect splitting of "Bedrock" & "Pocket" info, when really they should both be "Bedrock". One such example is the existence of both https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Pocket_Edition_version_history and https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/Bedrock_Edition_version_history ...these pages need to be merged. Bedrock Edition existed before the 1.2 update... if this is being done to signify the "Minecraft: ___ Edition" -> "Minecraft" name change, then it doesn't make sense. Minecraft Bedrock was using the Bedrock naming since at least 1.1 officially. SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 22:32, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

It simply hasn’t been updated yet. Also, if you say it was using the Bedrock name from 1.1, then why was the namesake not updated in a 1.1.x update? -BDJP ^(t|c) 22:34, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

You're confusing the "Minecraft" rename with the "Bedrock Edition" name, which by the way, IS NOT an official subtitle, but a made-up one based on the official name of the codebase... the Bedrock Codebase/Bedrock Engine. Apple TV Edition was never referred to as running Pocket Edition officially. I once complained about how the Pocket terminology was being incorrectly used on the wiki to refer to everything using the same C++ codebase. This problem still exists in some places even now... for some reason the "Pocket" naming stuff is being used in some places as the name of things pre-1.2, but not all things. This makes no sense. SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 22:41, 24 September 2017 (UTC)

Speaking of "official subtitles"...[]

"Java Edition", "Legacy Console Edition", etc. have all been italicized everywhere in this article. That makes sense for Java Edition and the other ones that are actually used as subtitles, because the names of works are italicized. But it doesn't make sense for a lot of them, e.g. "Bedrock Edition", which is not an official subtitle. It also blurs the line between actual product names and names we use for convenience when referring to all implementations from a particular code base. Isn't that what Helen Angel was trying to get us not to do? --– Auldrick (talk · contribs) 03:29, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

Hmmm, you're right. Instances of the term "Bedrock Edition" probably shouldn't be italicized. What about "Legacy Console Edition", though? Should that be italicized? That one is more of an official title than "Bedrock Edition", but it's not really the name of any single product. SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 04:07, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

I guess it depends on how and how much Microsoft is using it publicly. I know Helen has used it in streams, but is it published anywhere? If so, we probably should italicize it [edit: or follow Microsoft's styling if it's published in prose form]. Otherwise, just use your best judgment. Or you could ask Helen, since you have somewhat privileged access. --– Auldrick (talk · contribs) 05:19, 5 October 2017 (UTC)

I asked, and Helen said that "Bedrock Edition" and "Legacy Console Edition" shouldn't be treated as official titles, so those two shouldn't be italicized. SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 14:53, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

It happens I'm trying out some changes in the {{Exclusive}} template right now. It would be easy to modify it to follow this same styling, and it might be a way to discriminate the product names from the non-product terms, which is what Helen wanted when she asked if we could use Minecraft (Bedrock). That might make everybody happy. --– Auldrick (talk · contribs) 15:01, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

That sounds like a great idea! I just went through updating a bunch of pages to try and make all instances of official game titles italicized and de-italicize instances of Bedrock Edition & Legacy Console Edition. SuperGeniusZeb (talk) 17:31, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

The sample template is up for discussion. --– Auldrick (talk · contribs) 18:28, 6 October 2017 (UTC)

Where do these minimum Android version numbers come from?[]

There was recently an edit to Pocket Edition by an unregistered user:

https://minecraft.gamepedia.com/index.php?title=Pocket_Edition&diff=next&oldid=1157235

I knew this couldn't be right, because I had run Minecraft Bedrock on devices running older versions that 5.0... and then I realized I was running 1.2.3 build 1 on a device running 4.1.2. Both Pocket Edition & Bedrock Edition have 4.2 listed as the minimum Android version since July 29, 2015. Obviously, this information must be incorrect. I can't really contact the unregistered user about the "5.0" addition, but who added "4.2" and where did they get that info??? Is the 3.0 requirement even correct? SuperGeniusZeb (T▪C) 20:17, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

I don't really know what the "Released" part of the info box is meant to report. You seem to be assuming it's a minimum OS version number, but that isn't the only interpretation, is it? But even supposing it is the minimum version, it's not uncommon for apps to be tested only on the latest version, so even though it may run on 4.1.2 it may not be officially supported on that release. The app store should show the minimum system requirements; what does it say? That's what should be shown here, I would think. --– Auldrick (talk · contribs) 21:20, 8 October 2017 (UTC)"

Never mind, I realized right after I posted this that it's not available on the app store any more. --– Auldrick (talk · contribs) 21:24, 8 October 2017 (UTC)

So I just asked Helen, and she said the minimum supported version is one of the 4.x versions, meaning Ice Cream Sandwich, AKA 4.0, or newer. So since I'm running the game on 4.1.2, that means that the minimum supported version is either 4.0 or 4.1, and definitely not 4.2 or 5.0. As for assuming the wiki numbers are minimum OS numbers, I can't see how they would be recommended version numbers because I can't find any recommended version numbers for Android on the Mojang support site or on the Google Play app page, so as far as I can tell, the numbers (or at least the last two additions of "4.2" & "5.0" don't have any official sources and are just completely incorrect.

I'm not really sure what to do about the version numbers, though. There are no sources on any of them, and I don't have any devices running an Android version older than 4.1.2, so there's no way to verify any of them without more help from an official source or people who have really old devices with MCPE installed. SuperGeniusZeb (T▪C) 19:47, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Well, I can tell you that when I was researching your question I saw that it was first set to "2.1+" on October 9, 2011 (coincidentally exactly 6 years ago today) in this edit by User:Jays2Kings (who hasn't edited in years, but his user page claims he is "the founder of the wiki"). Does that help? --– Auldrick (talk · contribs) 19:56, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

BTW, the first Android release was the previous day, October 8. For a while the page had a link to a web site that checked Android device compatibility, and a list of "Confirmed devices". The list got updated hundred of times on that date, which is why I assume the link and list were removed the next day lol. --– Auldrick (talk · contribs) 19:59, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

I just checked, and UserProfile:Jays2Kings doesn't have a user page, and Minecraft_Wiki:About says that UserProfile:Citricsquid founded the wiki. Are you sure that you were looking at the right profile page?

Also, that "2.1+" number sounds about right, since 2.1, AKA the last version of Eclair, was at around 10% market share at the time, according to this chart, and anything older was at an insignificantly small marketshare. The other edits by the user seem to all be well-intentioned and correct, so I would say that this number is probably accurate.

But then I discovered this blog post on the Mojang site that says the following:

"Today we are very happy to announce that Minecraft - Pocket Edition will be available world wide for Android 2.2+ phones."

I checked Wikipedia, and it says that the Xperia Play runs 2.3.7, but early prototypes ran 2.2. This seems to line up with the 2.2 minimum version pretty well. The blog post was made before the edit, so I'm not sure if Jays2Kings misread the article when he/she made the edit, or if he/she had a device running 2.1, was able to install MCPE on there, and the blog post by Mojang was what actually had a typo. I would have just gone with the Mojang-posted number, but then I discovered something else.

The "2.3" date can actually be sourced, as it appears in this official blog post. It actually says:

"Notice for Android users: Starting with this update, Minecraft Pocket Edition will require Android 2.3 or later. This means we no longer support Android 2.1 or 2.2, but you will still be able to play older versions of Minecraft Pocket Edition."

And the 2.3 date, January 30, 2013, is in fact the release date for 0.6.0. So I'd say that the 0.6.0 blog post, along with the edit by Jays2Kings, confirms not only the 2.3 version requirement date, but also that 2.1 was the oldest supported version for the initial release, and that the first blog post had a typo.

I also discovered that the "3.0" date used to be different. The "3.0" date was first added by User:BDJP007301 in this edit, as a result of a previous edit by User:Dentedharp90041. The date by BDJP007301, which was clearly a guess (December 31, 2015 wasn't the release date for any version) was later changed by Dentedharp90041 in this edit, which also added the "4.2" number and date.

The current "3.0" date is the release date of 0.7.3. The current "4.2" date is the release date of [[Pocket Edition Alpha 0.12.1 build 1|0.12.1 build 1], a Pocket-only beta build released on the same day as 0.12.0, the first Win10 version (which wasn't released on Pocket due to technical problems, resulting in the 0.12.1 beta). The 4.2 number is obviously wrong since I'm running the game on a 4.1.2 device, and that puts the 3.0 info into question as well, since both dates came from the same user. Additionally, I couldn't find any sources for the version requirement changes in any blog posts like I did for 2.1 & 2.3.

I will try and contact Dentedharp90041 to see where he got the info for the version number requirement dates he added. The 4.2 date is definitely incorrect, as is the 5.0 date, but the 3.0 date does have a chance of actually being correct, albeit not very likely. I will also update the version requirement list for Android on Bedrock Edition & Pocket Edition to remove the erroneous 4.2 & 5.0, mention 2.1 as the oldest version supported on the initial release, and add references for the dates of 2.1 & 2.3.

(Also, this is unrelated, but I finally discovered who was responsible for adding the incorrect info that Pocket was written in Objective-C on iOS. That used to bother me when I first saw it a couple years ago back before I got a wiki account.) SuperGeniusZeb (T▪C) 23:31, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

My, but you're tenacious, aren't you! I'm sure I must have mixed up Jays2Kings with somebody else. When I first started looking for the original version, I got off on the wrong foot and searched for the first iOS version. It was probably the guy who made that edit who claimed to be the founder, but I don't remember his name being CitricSquid so it might have been a lie. --– Auldrick (talk · contribs) 23:42, 9 October 2017 (UTC)

Main Page Version Box[]

Since Talk:Minecraft Wiki is protected, I will ask this here. I have an idea about the Better Together Update versions on the Main Page. Since the version numbers and console logos all lead to Bedrock Edition 1.2.2 and Bedrock Edition, respectively, would it be effective to have just one GIF cycling through the logos with the version below? 50.110.177.206 00:39, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

The main page is protected, but its talk page isn't, so you could have asked there. However, what you're suggesting won't work. Although at the moment all the platforms are on the same version update, that isn't always true. Since the BTU came out in Beta, it has already happened that updates for Android, iOS, and Xbox 360 have each been delayed for a short while, causing them to be on a different update. --– Auldrick (talk · contribs) 00:48, 10 October 2017 (UTC)

Move (to Bedrock codebase)[]

Mojang themselves seems to be using Bedrock codebase (with lowercase "c"), according to how they write it on the Mojang Bug Tracker.[1] This page should be moved. Writing Edition could, by public visitors of the page, at first be confused with it being a standalone game. Move it to Bedrock codebase or Bedrock Codebase, but I would recommend Bedrock codebase. 85.9.20.149 15:58, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

I agree with the idea and have promoted it (my suggestion was "the Bedrock version") in the past. However, at this late date the name Bedrock Edition has become entrenched on the wiki and is seeing adoption by the community at large (as evidenced by, for example, Hermitcraft YouTubers Xisumavoid and PythonGB in some of their videos), so the idea was resisted and no consensus was reached. On the other hand, perhaps your term would be more acceptable to the other editors, so if you'd like to pursue this I'd suggest placing it on the Minecraft Wiki Talk:Projects/Renaming page.

Personally, I can see a small problem with your suggestion. Something called the Bedrock Codebase already exists, and it's not the set of implementations that we currently call "Bedrock Edition". We do also mention the Bedrock Codebase on rare occasions, so there is some possibility of ambiguity or confusion. But I think the other editors consider me too nitpicky about semantic precision, so don't let me discourage you. – Auldrick (talk · contribs) 16:43, 26 October 2017 (UTC)

Import world button in Platform differences[]

Listing import world button is somewhat misleading. It makes it seem like only Windows 10 can import worlds. I think this should be changed to something along the lines of 'World importing.' However I am unsure of which editions can import worlds. I can verify that iOS and Windows 10 can import. I would guess that Android can import and that consoles can't. Jahunsbe (Talk) 22:56, 2 August 2018 (UTC)

New alpha minecraft bedrock software[]

Mojang maded a new Minecraft software and this software maded for windows and linux Windows - Writed on C++ linux - idk :p

this link to software - https://minecraft.net/en-us/download/server/bedrock/ –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Viper studion1 (talk • contribs) at 13:56, 28 September 2018 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

Bedrock Dedicated Server was created 21days ago, all information is available there.--skylord_wars (talk) 07:50, 6 October 2018 (UTC)

Structure Block Exporting on other Versions[]

While testing in earlier versions of Minecraft Bedrock, I noticed that the iOS version could export structures. I'm not too sure about the Android edition, but this page should be updated with this information. RoblKyogre (talk) 07:33, 5 October 2018 (UTC)

Please add the German language link[]

Please add [[de:Bedrock Edition]] to the language links, as the article is currently protected. --134.3.60.65 02:27, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

 Done, thanks for letting us know. I'm surprised it wasn't there already.-- Madminecrafter12^{Talk to me} 02:28, 27 December 2018 (UTC)

Experimental Gameplay[]

Experimental gameplay is a Bedrock Edition exclusive feature allowing players to use features that aren't completely implemented (though thee are more bugs) , similar to Java Edition snapshots. It should have it's own page.73.208.227.101 14:43, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Maybe, but there has to be enough information to make it worthy of its own page. I'm not sure how much you can say about Experimental Gameplay other than what features are/have been behind it, but that information is different for every release and every Beta so it's better to have it in the History section, which is where it already is. Can you come up with enough information to justify giving it its own article? – Auldrick (talk · contribs) 15:53, 24 February 2019 (UTC)

Upcoming Engine Change[]

Though Mojang has not publicly announced this, Minecraft on the devices that use bedrock engines will now use the hummingbird engine, with a new menu set up as well. What do we do about that (ibxtoycat is my source)?73.208.227.101 21:28, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

I don't see any need to do anything, at least at this time. Hummingbird is nothing but an internal name. The engine isn't available to be used or studied, and the game mechanics won't change because of it so there's nothing we can really say about it. Mojang is also building a new rendering engine, which they're calling RenderDragon. That's similarly not something we need to mention anywhere. It may be interesting, but it's of no practical value to the wiki readers if all we can say about it is that "it exists". – Auldrick (talk · contribs) 21:40, 29 April 2019 (UTC)

Hardcore in Bedrock Edition?[]

I think it would be awesome if Mojang added hardcore to bedrock edition. Anyone else have something to say? –Preceding unsigned comment was added by Calebjet (talk • contribs) at 13:22, 18 September 2019 (UTC). Please sign your posts with ~~~~

I do!

I do as well!--75.174.67.33 15:12, 12 July 2020 (UTC)

1. 1: sign you posts
2. 2: this is not for feature suggestions, go to reddit or the official Minecraft Suggestions website.

-FezEmerald (T|C) 02:52, 22 October 2019 (UTC)

“Bedrock Edition” not written in italics style (inconsistency)[]

Inconsistent with how other versions are written out, like Java Edition, “Bedrock Edition” is not written with italics style. Should this be changed or not? 185.253.97.173 23:24, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

No, see the wiki style guide. FVbico (talk) 23:26, 4 January 2020 (UTC)

ps4 ip connection[]

The graph says that PS4 players cannot connect to servers with the ip, but I have found no evidence to support this. The official minecraft help center says only switch and xbox one are unable to connect with IP. Someone needs to figure out whether or not a PS4 can connect with IP. 104.34.226.124 06:56, 14 April 2020 (UTC)

Bedrock Edition on Android[]

I have unpacked the beta 1.16.0.57 one and found that it requires a minimum Android SDK version of 21, which is Android 5.0. This means the data in the infobox may need an update.-- MysticNebula70 ( ^T / _C ) 17:46, 21 April 2020 (UTC)

I updated the page. If you know exactly which version changed this, please add that. The Blobs 00:23, 25 April 2020 (UTC)

Semi-Protection Needed[]

The Java Edition page is semi-protected, so only registered users can edit it. But, this Bedrock Edition page needs to be given similar protection. Now I don't know how to protect an article, but... 122.164.132.154 09:48, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

First of, you need to be an admin to protect pages. Anyway, the Java Edition was protected due to an excessive amount of vandalism. I saw some vandals on this page here and there, too, but since this is a page that doesnt greatly affect other pages as templates and modules, I think if it doesn't get vandalized even more, there is no protection needed. ---- Elite hog (talk) 09:56, 2 May 2020 (UTC)

Latest version | Official Version Update[]

For the latest version of the official part it should be updated from 1.16.0 to 1.16.1 Can somebody do that please? 71.57.105.169 22:08, 29 June 2020 (UTC)

Playstation VR[]

Playstation VR was added to the Bedrock codebase today(9/22/2020 10:00 AM CDT), and it needs to be added to the list of Bedrock edition platforms. 24.15.1.229 21:50, 22 September 2020 (UTC)

From avoid Vandalism[]

Avoid damage any article that no evidence from that so you have evidence you can edit article but you have evidence to edit articles

From edit any article with no evidence it called vandalism. I'm Witness 1998 (talk) 03:03, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Minecraft Bedrock[]

Minecraft (Bedrock Codebase) is that the title of minecraft bedrock NO is just simplified (Bedrock Edition) The correct title I'm Witness 1998 (talk) 03:08, 21 October 2020 (UTC)

Infobox suggestion[]

I think it would be better if the logos would be replaced with the names of the platforms. 72.201.5.118 01:04, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

 Oppose because logos are important. The Great Spring (talk | contribs) (Tagalog translation) 01:18, 6 December 2020 (UTC)

Android version number[]

Mojang recently dropped support for Android 4.4 KitKat, but the wiki specifies the minimum Android version is "4.5" (that version does not even exist). This should be changed to be 5.0. 12emin34 (talk) 17:05, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Done – JEC _talk @ 17:42, 13 March 2021 (UTC)

Dispute with User:Minecraftjoe in Nomenclature section[]

@Minecraftjoe: You haven't tried to talk to me on my Talk page and haven't created your own Talk page as I suggested, you've only kept repeating the same argument at greater and greater length in the edit summaries, which is an abuse of them. Therefore, I'm trying to engage with you here. I don't think you understand what this section is for or what it's trying to explain. The entire section is presenting a history of how and why the name "Bedrock Edition" was invented. The events and attitudes described are from years ago, so it's presented as a historical narrative. You do not use historical narrative to inform about current events; it's a recounting of history and is told from a past perspective. Changing it to present tense is like writing "There was an old lady who lives in a shoe": It's wrong and the sudden tense shift is jarring to the listener. Furthermore, your change to the description of how console players were confused ruins the purpose it's meant to have. They were confused about names because the names were too similar. They were not confused about differences between the versions' features, which is what your change suggests.

If you want to respond, please do so here rather than in an edit summary. Otherwise I'll assume you're not interested in supporting your argument and will revert your changes in a couple of days (after the 3 Revert Rule no longer applies). – Unsigned comment added by Auldrick (talk • contribs) at 21:50 9 April 2021 (UTC). Sign comments with ~~~~

Official usage of Bedrock Edition title[]

On Nomenclature section of this page, it is said that the term Bedrock Edition has never been used officially. But now, Minecraft on Windows 10/11 sells both Java and Bedrock in one bundle under the title "Java & Bedrock Edition". Does this count as an official (at least, in marketing) use of "Bedrock Edition" subtitle? GagahDragon (talk) 13:47, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

Indeed it has now been officialised. --MetalManiacMc at your service fellow human! (talk) 14:25, 7 July 2022 (UTC)

I find that section very confusing to read, and it doesn't help that Mojang continues to create confusion around it. I'm thinking of rewriting that section but it's going to be difficult to make a concise version. Cat201 (talk) 11:27, 8 July 2022 (UTC)

Cannot find source for Bedrock codebase[]

It may be possible that I'm not searching hard enough, but if it is the case that there is no source, I think the sentences should be changed. ManyOursOfFun (talk) 04:34, 15 July 2022 (UTC)

Strange Sound Glitch[]

So, I think since late September my Minecraft Bedrock has been doing this strange sound glitch. I don't know how to describe it but there's this weird sound that plays over every sound I make; it sounds like some footsteps and it for some reason keeps getting louder then quieter then louder then quieter again. I tried turning off the music and it didn't work, then I turned all the other sounds off and still, it was there. It's strange because it only happens on this Minecraft version and only on this app - another thing, I tried recording and it wasn't there. If anyone knows what to do and how to fix it please tell me!

ChannathanUK23 (talk) 17:28, 29 October 2023 (UTC)Channathan