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"salvage the kit for less experience"[]
As far as I can tell, you get 30 more XP for salvaging the kit - unless it affects some later XP bonus? 124.168.90.105 19:36, May 18, 2011 (UTC)
- I'll remove the comment about less experience until someone else can validate this; as best as I could tell, though, all the other choices just give you a flat 600XP, whereas salvaging gives you 30 then 600. I also don't believe that the choice affects any Deliverer of Sorrows rewards - at least unless you just grab the unsalvaged kit. 124.168.90.105 21:37, May 23, 2011 (UTC)
As far as I can tell I saw no noticeable xp but don't trust me on this Dmitri the wanderer 07:54, May 30, 2011 (UTC)
- If you salvage the kit, you appear to get a +30XP notification followed by the +600 for completing the mission; otherwise, only the +600 appears. Of course, I'm long gone from that area/quest so double-checking would be quite difficult... 124.170.3.244 23:55, June 1, 2011 (UTC)
snowglobe[]
Alright, yes, I know the snow globe isn't a part of this Quest, but shouldn't it be in the notes or something anyways? Snow Globes have their own quest (which, this one might not technically be in, but it is the same thing), and since you'd most likely rather NOT to return to Zion just to go hunting for a Snow Globe, there should be a section in here mentioning how you can also pick up this while you're at it. This isn't a new concept, check out The Silo: in that Quest page, it mentions other valuables that are convenient to grab;
So, can someone be kind enough to put information on the Snow globe - Lonesome Road in here so people won't have to travel back if they miss it - after all, I'd be pissed if I knew I had to trek any extra distance when I'd already visited the spot. So, in the name of keeping up quality and ease of access information, I believe there should be a tiny note about the snow globe being here. = SamousInd. (talk) 21:14, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
- Again, the quest pages aren't for listing any loot around. That's for the notable loot section of location articles. The page for The Silo wasn't in compliance with article standards either. So I've cleaedn it accordingly, any 'loot' that's left is only for waypoint marking purposes. Great Mara (talk) 21:31, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
- I second Mara on this. If we listed all notable loot on quest pages they would be insanely long and take away from the walkthrough. Loot should only be noted if it is a reference point or is somehow related to the quest. Otherwise, it belongs in the relevant location/quest article.
nihil novi sub sole 21:35, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
- Can you show me where the article standards can be found (I'm not doubting you, I just want to see what I'm protesting first). I completely disagree with you on this matter, as for two main reasons: 1) A vast majority of quest pages on multiple wikis and wikias contain convenient info on loot, as it is helpful in the game. Typically, if two quest coincide with each other, they also mention the ability to do both quests simultaneously, from both quest pages (not location pages typically, since simultaneous quests typically don't take place in just one location).* 2) Ease of access of information. The wikia/wiki foundation is on the ability to easily access information. That means pages should have links to all relevant info - I should never have to use the "Search" bar on a wikia. If I have to have multiple pages up just so I don't have to repeated travel to the same area or do the same task, then that's going to frustrate me. Things like; link-backs and notes are relevant info, that while don't pertain to the actual quest - they assist the reader in both navigating the site, and finding out information that they originally wouldn't have found. Sound familiar?
- I second Mara on this. If we listed all notable loot on quest pages they would be insanely long and take away from the walkthrough. Loot should only be noted if it is a reference point or is somehow related to the quest. Otherwise, it belongs in the relevant location/quest article.
- I can give a list of pages that do this, it's common educate even if it doesn't apply to your wikia's standards. That's why I'm asking where these standards are, and also asking about where I can request a small change in standards. Wikia is about sharing information - not carefully sorting it away in a file somewhere. Duplicate information is better than hard to find info.
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Just some few examples I found really quickly: “Just before entering there is a SMMG in a Military shipping crate to the right on some rubble.”— Not a waypoint marker, in The Job
“If you climb this building you will find The Crow's Nest, where the advanced riot gear, along with one of Ulysses' holotapes, is located.”— Not part of this quest, or a waypoint, in The Launch
“There is a Meeting People and a Salesman Weekly in an office on the second carpeted floor from the bottom.”— Not a waypoint marker, in The Divide (quest)
“a room to your right contains headless corpses, the assassin suit, a cosmic knife and a terminal with information that adds to the History's Sake challenge.”— Maybe a waypoint marker... maybe not, in Find Collar 12: Christine
Do these actually seam to be cumbersome? Yes, not ALL loot should be included, but significant loot, or notable loot, should, as long as it is along the path of the quest. Several dozen pages already are that way, and I don't see very many conversations like this concerning them (though, I am new...). |
- *Yes, I know other wikias don't have to follow this one's rules and guidelines and vise-versa, but if it's a social standard amongst the people who use Wikia, shouldn't that count for something?
=SamousInd. (talk) 22:08, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
- *Yes, I know other wikias don't have to follow this one's rules and guidelines and vise-versa, but if it's a social standard amongst the people who use Wikia, shouldn't that count for something?
Unless part of the quest, items are not relevant to a quest article. Paladin117>>iff bored; 22:12, April 1, 2013 (UTC)
- I agree with what Paladin said. And there are numerous articles that do not follow this convention, but nevertheless they should be made to. I can honestly see your reasoning but I can also see where the addition of any loot is rather cumbersome, because then we get into the issue of which should be included. It's either all or none, and it can't be all, so it has to be none. nihil novi sub sole 22:17, April 1, 2013 (UTC)