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Item ID[]
Please be aware that using the item ID provided with the player.additem console command results in a Hardened Sniper Rifle rather than the basic item.
I think strictly speaking the name of this weapon is "rifle." Rifle + short barrel = hunting rifle, rifle + long barrel (and scope?) = sniper rifle.
Using the console commands results in a randomly modified hunting rifle not always a hardened sniper rifle.........
Animation bug:
The reloading animation is bugged for this rifle. when you fire all the ammunition from your magazine, before pulling back the bolt the animation will replace the empty magazine with a fresh one and then cycle the weapon by operating the bolt. the spent casing from the previous magazine pops out and a fresh round from the new magazine is chambered.
however if you manually reload when the magazine isn't empty (and by extent there is still a live round chambered), after replacing the magazine with a new one, the weapon will be cycled again and if you looks closely you will see that an empty casing eject from the weapon.
seems to me like there is only one reloading animation that is used in both instances instead of two reload animations for either instance.
As such, reloading your weapon before it is fully empty has no tactical benefit for this weapon as the reload time is the same either way.
- That applies to all weapons - there's no tactical reload animations, only empty mag ones. --ffs (talk) 08:25, December 9, 2015 (UTC)
The item in college square[]
I got a short pipe revolver rifle at level 7. Tested today on ps4, current patch.
Actual justification for appearance[]
The page mentions the high end versions as trying to mimic the sniper rifle introduced in FO3. This is, however, a misconception.
The DKS-501 (the sniper rifle from Fallout 3) seems like either an original creation or a heavily modified version based on so many multiple different weapons (just like the 10mm pistol) that it became unrecognizable (to the point not even the IMFDB people can pinpoint which real-life sniper rifle it's based on).
A good similar example is the 10mm pistol in Fallout 4 -- in Fallout 3, the model still had a clear resemblance to the IMI Desert Eagle, though with a barrel extension kinda similar to the one found in Dan Wesson PPC revolvers. The Fallout 4's 10mm pistol, however, is modified in such a way that the original resemblance to the Desert Eagle is gone, and it became more of an original weapon.
The Hunting Rifle family from Fallout 4, however, is heavily based on the Remington 700 family. The basic wooden frame ("Full stock" and "Long Barrel") is based on the wooden variant of the Remington 700 (like the 700 CDL), while the high-end frame ("Marksman Stock" with the "Long Ported Barrel") is modeled after the synthetic and modernized body of the Remington 700 VTR, though with a hollowed stock (in the same style as the DSK-501, but still different), a slightly different grip and a cheek plate. The version from the loading screen even has a bipod (which is included in the real 700 VTR), but it's omitted on the rifle that the player can actually obtain through the game.
The DSK-501 from Fallout 3 is a semi-auto rifle, with a far different receiver, magazine, barrel, scope, grip, material... you name it. The single resemblance is the internal shape of the stock, though they are still very different.
So either remove the reference (since that's actually the main rule; never make a reference to a IRL weapon unless the devs or the game officially state it as being based on that weapon) or just add that "both are based on real-life modifications possible for some .308 rifle receivers" instead of the incorrect reference to the Fallout 3 rifle. ���Preceding unsigned comment added by 186.212.153.135 (talk • contribs). Please sign your posts with ~~~~!
- Very thought out argument, I must admit. I'll remove the comparison from the page. The (not-so) faux Hawk 04:13, December 7, 2015 (UTC)
- Would have removed the reference myself a lot earlier had I noticed. A lot of new people who haven't read the wiki rules keep trying to add weapon spec to FO4 weapon articles. Great Mara (talk) 04:18, December 7, 2015 (UTC)
- I remember all of that kind of madness from way back with FO3 and FONV, at times the talk pages took on the appearance of a full on flame war. However; I still think that some mention should be made of how rare left handed bolt action weapons are and that the Hunting rifle's furniture appears to be designed to accept left and right handed bolt action mechanisms.--BattleBen (talk) 11:13, December 12, 2015 (UTC)
- Would have removed the reference myself a lot earlier had I noticed. A lot of new people who haven't read the wiki rules keep trying to add weapon spec to FO4 weapon articles. Great Mara (talk) 04:18, December 7, 2015 (UTC)
Basic hunting rifle[]
Here is a picture of a hunting rifle with the basic short stock. I've never added pictures to pages, so I don't know if this is a good quality, as I just took a screenshot in game and deleted the scenery around it.JMA4269 (talk) 01:29, March 14, 2016 (UTC)
- That picture still uses the wrong barrel modification. The most basic hunting rifle uses the standard receiver, short barrel, short stock, standard magazine, standard sights, and no muzzle. Great Mara (talk) 03:54, March 14, 2016 (UTC)
- I suppose you're right, but the most basic form before it is changed to "short hunting rifle" is standard receiver, short light barrel, short stock, ect... JMA4269 (talk) 04:14, March 14, 2016 (UTC)
- That would still be the most basic, unmodified hunting rifle, despite the prefix added by the standard barrel. Great Mara (talk) 04:17, March 14, 2016 (UTC)
- Anyway, this is all the standard modifications. JMA4269 (talk) 04:22, March 14, 2016 (UTC)
- Alright. Thank you. The one above uses the Short Light Barrel mod, correct? I can add it to a gallery on the lower page with the larger right in a gallery. Great Mara (talk) 04:27, March 14, 2016 (UTC)
- Anyway, this is all the standard modifications. JMA4269 (talk) 04:22, March 14, 2016 (UTC)
- That would still be the most basic, unmodified hunting rifle, despite the prefix added by the standard barrel. Great Mara (talk) 04:17, March 14, 2016 (UTC)
- I suppose you're right, but the most basic form before it is changed to "short hunting rifle" is standard receiver, short light barrel, short stock, ect... JMA4269 (talk) 04:14, March 14, 2016 (UTC)
Technical Specifications[]
I don't know how to properly add "Trivia" sections but this is worth noting.
While shotguns that have their shortened, stock removed, or both are commonly referred to as "Sawn-" or "Sawed-off" shotguns, a sawn off bolt action rifle can sometimes be designated an "Obrez" pistol. And then have like a link to an Obrez article elsewhere.
An Obrez pistol is basically a "pistol that fires a rifle cartridge" but is often simply a bolt action rifle, such as a Mosin Nagant, that has been cut down into a pistol shape or shortened for concealment in a boot or such. Although I've read that the term "Obrez" is derived from a Russian term for circumcision... PaulReverend (talk) 02:09, May 30, 2016 (UTC)
- That would fall under the weapon spec rule. And sawed-off shotguns refers to sawing off the barrel of the gun to a point below legal limits. Stock and grip aren't included. Great Mara (talk) 00:22, May 30, 2016 (UTC)