If you don't want your server's publicly listed, I think there should be an option that states if you want it on the main list, or not. Maybe even an option to say that "Only friends can see this server".
But of course, the password feature would keep any unwanted personnel out.
Hmm, a lot to think about for update 7. Keep your ideas coming everyone
It would probably be a nightmare to host a large server on something like that. It works for something with short and sweet matches, but not for persistent worlds with many players.
Yeah, I though of that as well, and thats why I came to the decision that Bukkit servers will also show up in the main list, for people who run dedicated servers 24/7 with loads of people.
Of course, those who DO run the Bukkit servers wont get all the benefits of running the server through the game client, (like server names, passwords) UNLESS the Bukkit team puts something like that to support it running through the server list.
This looks great and all, but i think theres a few more things that you forgot to mention....
How will these servers be saved? I'm assuming you'd be expecting the main server creation/hosting would take place with this method, so how would the server be taken down and then accessed at a later date?
Also, how would a server stay up 24/7? would the person just leave their computer on with their browser open? would they have to leave their player in game so that the server could stay on?
One more thing- how would it be modded? where could the properties of the server be edited?
I hope these questions can be answered, it will make the process of this becoming a reality much easier for you :biggrin.gif:
Well, I had some Ideas on this as well. If you want your server back up on a later date, the level.dat that you chose to create the server could be saved in another folder in your ".minecraft" directory. Like "Online Saves" or something of the sort. Thus making it simpler to run the server, and start up right where you left off if the server ever had to shut down for a bit. Also, in the folder we would have hourly backups, for those anti-grief servers out there.
A server would stay up 24/7 much like how they do right now. If you want a dedicated server, run bukkit and everything. If all goes to plan, your server should show up in the list too. Maybe with a custom tag that shows its dedicated. Another way would have an option in the Create Game menu to run the server even if no-ones in in, therefor even if you leave the server still runs.
The game can be modded from the Create Game section. When i update the thread again I'm adding a section for plugin support right on the main screen.
Although, let me be clear, this was just a simple idea to replace the simple minecraft_server.jar file for hosting simple servers. Like I said at the top somewhere, you should still be able to run bukkit and plugins through it for you crazy server hosters out there.
Ahhh alright then. I just wanted to make sure this idea didn't have any major holes. Sounds good to me, I hope you take the steps necessary to make this a cool thing!
Remember Nath, this game, and this idea, is a work in progress. I'd love too see server hosting more accessible, because some people don't understand the basics of portforwarding. The way right now works, but, it shouldn't be like this near the full release of a game thats been in development for a year or so now. Minecraft needs a central hub for all things multiplayer, considering most people consider it a fundamental part of the game. This would make online more useable and thus, more people would be online, making EVERYBODY happy <3
Like someone else has said, it's good right now, since the people need a certain IQ Level to understand or atleast go on Youtube and search up a tutorial for Minecraft
The only thing I would say, would be update the Minecraft Server files, so it's more user friendly and then maybe add a read-me on port forwarding,
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1. Whitelist ability, people can just tell others the password
2. A way to add plugins
3. I see a flaw in the "Go join friend in server". Griefers can just find their friends and instantly go to the server with a click of a button. I think that if they're not on the whitelist, there should be a window that says, "You do not have permission to enter this server". Also, a "Foe" list, just having friends and no "foes" makes it somewhat boring. A "foe" list should be included just for the sake of a friends list.
I think this is a good idea; it'll certainly make it easier for players to connect with one another, and also for new players to find a server if they don't have any friends playing the game and don't want to set up their own server.
Also I like the idea of showing the server settings when you select it, like whether it's PvP or not. For me, at least, that can be a deciding factor.
Obviously the graphics could use some work. :tongue.gif:
Overall, however, this is an excellent idea. With luck Notch already has something similar planned. Lord knows he needs to do SOMETHING to improve SMP.
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1. Whitelist ability, people can just tell others the password
2. A way to add plugins
3. I see a flaw in the "Go join friend in server". Griefers can just find their friends and instantly go to the server with a click of a button. I think that if they're not on the whitelist, there should be a window that says, "You do not have permission to enter this server". Also, a "Foe" list, just having friends and no "foes" makes it somewhat boring. A "foe" list should be included just for the sake of a friends list.
Okay, so basically a checkbox that states if the Whitelist is enabled on the create screen? That could work, and I'll definitely be adding that in update 8.
Plugin support was already brought up and will also be there in update 8.
With the Buddy List, you have to accept all friend requests. Although I know what you're saying. In update 8 I'll address that issue in further detail.
The Foe list sounds good, and would be easy to inplement it into the gui of the "Buddy List".
I think this is a good idea; it'll certainly make it easier for players to connect with one another, and also for new players to find a server if they don't have any friends playing the game and don't want to set up their own server.
Also I like the idea of showing the server settings when you select it, like whether it's PvP or not. For me, at least, that can be a deciding factor.
Obviously the graphics could use some work. :tongue.gif:
Overall, however, this is an excellent idea. With luck Notch already has something similar planned. Lord knows he needs to do SOMETHING to improve SMP.
Thank you, and yeah, I just quickly sketched up some blocks in Paintbrush. I'll obviously re-do them if I have the time!
Remember Nath, this game, and this idea, is a work in progress. I'd love too see server hosting more accessible, because some people don't understand the basics of portforwarding. The way right now works, but, it shouldn't be like this near the full release of a game thats been in development for a year or so now. Minecraft needs a central hub for all things multiplayer, considering most people consider it a fundamental part of the game. This would make online more useable and thus, more people would be online, making EVERYBODY happy <3
Like someone else has said, it's good right now, since the people need a certain IQ Level to understand or atleast go on Youtube and search up a tutorial for Minecraft
The only thing I would say, would be update the Minecraft Server files, so it's more user friendly and then maybe add a read-me on port forwarding,
Like I said before, its about opening up SMP to the public and making the game more social. I'm sorry if you don't see it my way, but most people do. We want server hosting to be easier, so we can fool around in SMP with our buddies.
I think this is a good idea; it'll certainly make it easier for players to connect with one another, and also for new players to find a server if they don't have any friends playing the game and don't want to set up their own server.
Also I like the idea of showing the server settings when you select it, like whether it's PvP or not. For me, at least, that can be a deciding factor.
Obviously the graphics could use some work. :tongue.gif:
Overall, however, this is an excellent idea. With luck Notch already has something similar planned. Lord knows he needs to do SOMETHING to improve SMP.
He doesn't need to make anything like this, what he would need to do, is make the Minecraft_Server a little more user friendly, and maybe a read-me file with a tutorial on how to get it working
And what is needed to Improve SMP, An Intergrated Anti-Hack System (I think that was added)
Some bug testing before release
A Way to download mod files for server specifications (meaning that it can choose your texture pack for you)
Anyways I just find that this is un-necessary, since all the information is out there, all you need to do is SEARCH
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I think this is a good idea; it'll certainly make it easier for players to connect with one another, and also for new players to find a server if they don't have any friends playing the game and don't want to set up their own server.
Also I like the idea of showing the server settings when you select it, like whether it's PvP or not. For me, at least, that can be a deciding factor.
Obviously the graphics could use some work. :tongue.gif:
Overall, however, this is an excellent idea. With luck Notch already has something similar planned. Lord knows he needs to do SOMETHING to improve SMP.
He doesn't need to make anything like this, what he would need to do, is make the Minecraft_Server a little more user friendly, and maybe a read-me file with a tutorial on how to get it working
And what is needed to Improve SMP, An Intergrated Anti-Hack System (I think that was added)
Some bug testing before release
A Way to download mod files for server specifications (meaning that it can choose your texture pack for you)
Anyways I just find that this is un-necessary, since all the information is out there, all you need to do is SEARCH
This GUI is to make it so you don't HAVE to search, makes it more user friendly, and in update 8, I'll gladly propose a way to install mods and texture packs for the whole server. This is more necessary than a Turkey on Thanksgiving.
I'm actually against making hosting easier.
Simply because of server spamming.
At least with the current system, it is required that the creator has an IQ measurably higher than a broomstick.
But with the suggested system, a server could be created if you drop your mouse.
That said, I would like a browser.
Then maybe something can be implemented to avoid that instead of not adding easier server creation all together. If the server you made isn't active for more than a few days, it's deleted.
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There's only one way to find out. We must tie him up and throw him in the lake. If he lives, he is a whitch. If he dies, he is human. MY LOGIC BEATS YOURS.
Then you should be able to make it "PRIVATE" or "PUBLIC".
http://www.youtube.com/user/OmegaWolfGamer
If you don't want your server's publicly listed, I think there should be an option that states if you want it on the main list, or not. Maybe even an option to say that "Only friends can see this server".
But of course, the password feature would keep any unwanted personnel out.
Hmm, a lot to think about for update 7. Keep your ideas coming everyone
Yeah, I though of that as well, and thats why I came to the decision that Bukkit servers will also show up in the main list, for people who run dedicated servers 24/7 with loads of people.
Of course, those who DO run the Bukkit servers wont get all the benefits of running the server through the game client, (like server names, passwords) UNLESS the Bukkit team puts something like that to support it running through the server list.
Ahhh alright then. I just wanted to make sure this idea didn't have any major holes. Sounds good to me, I hope you take the steps necessary to make this a cool thing!
Like someone else has said, it's good right now, since the people need a certain IQ Level to understand or atleast go on Youtube and search up a tutorial for Minecraft
The only thing I would say, would be update the Minecraft Server files, so it's more user friendly and then maybe add a read-me on port forwarding,
I will be using them soon
I'm Starting to be known as a Balancer, A.K.A. I'm starting to become pessimist
1. Whitelist ability, people can just tell others the password
2. A way to add plugins
3. I see a flaw in the "Go join friend in server". Griefers can just find their friends and instantly go to the server with a click of a button. I think that if they're not on the whitelist, there should be a window that says, "You do not have permission to enter this server". Also, a "Foe" list, just having friends and no "foes" makes it somewhat boring. A "foe" list should be included just for the sake of a friends list.
MeincraftDAS IS GUTEN!!!!!
http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=1020&t=118850
Also I like the idea of showing the server settings when you select it, like whether it's PvP or not. For me, at least, that can be a deciding factor.
Obviously the graphics could use some work. :tongue.gif:
Overall, however, this is an excellent idea.
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Creator of "The Wizard Gandy" Minecraft map series.
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Okay, so basically a checkbox that states if the Whitelist is enabled on the create screen? That could work, and I'll definitely be adding that in update 8.
Plugin support was already brought up and will also be there in update 8.
With the Buddy List, you have to accept all friend requests. Although I know what you're saying. In update 8 I'll address that issue in further detail.
The Foe list sounds good, and would be easy to inplement it into the gui of the "Buddy List".
Thank you, and yeah, I just quickly sketched up some blocks in Paintbrush. I'll obviously re-do them if I have the time!
Like I said before, its about opening up SMP to the public and making the game more social. I'm sorry if you don't see it my way, but most people do. We want server hosting to be easier, so we can fool around in SMP with our buddies.
Well then, I'm a Troll....That doesn't seem right
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I'm Starting to be known as a Balancer, A.K.A. I'm starting to become pessimist
He doesn't need to make anything like this, what he would need to do, is make the Minecraft_Server a little more user friendly, and maybe a read-me file with a tutorial on how to get it working
And what is needed to Improve SMP, An Intergrated Anti-Hack System (I think that was added)
Some bug testing before release
A Way to download mod files for server specifications (meaning that it can choose your texture pack for you)
Anyways I just find that this is un-necessary, since all the information is out there, all you need to do is SEARCH
I will be using them soon
I'm Starting to be known as a Balancer, A.K.A. I'm starting to become pessimist
I'm confused as to why you don't wan't Minecraft to be a more accessible game? :S
But no, you aren't a troll.
This GUI is to make it so you don't HAVE to search, makes it more user friendly, and in update 8, I'll gladly propose a way to install mods and texture packs for the whole server. This is more necessary than a Turkey on Thanksgiving.
Hehe...
No seriously this is sick.
[saracasm] Impossible. No mod could do this [/saracasm]
Try it. But it would only be GUI and client. No way you could actually fetch servers and "buddys"
Then maybe something can be implemented to avoid that instead of not adding easier server creation all together. If the server you made isn't active for more than a few days, it's deleted.