Formula probably incorrect[]
This article says "Time taken to destroy blocks is multiplied by 3 ^ level." That contradicts Breaking#Speed, which says "The speed is also increased by (20×level)% per level of Haste, while Mining Fatigue decreases it by 70% for level I, 91% for level II, 99.73% for level III, and 99.919% for all other levels." But both don't really work in my test. I wanted to test whether Mining fatigue 126 could be used to make block breaking essentially impossible. So I took an Efficiency 5 gold shovel, gave myself Haste 2 and Mining fatigue 126 and mined a snow layer. According to the formula here, this should take 117047642866854295674666898962796109064121568068438 years, according to the formula on Breaking, this should take 2 game ticks (rounded up). But it actually takes about 3½ seconds. So what is the real formula for breaking time? And if this is known, couldn't it be summarised to one mathematical formula? All these different wordings of breaking time vs. breaking speed, distributed over multiple articles, is pretty confusing. Fabian42 (talk) 08:39, 5 March 2020 (UTC)
- Contrived tests like that are meaningless. Why not just stick with real in-game tests? If you use the Bedrock seed picker to select "Ocean Monuments Ahead", you'll see an ocean monument from the shore of the island you spawn on, and this monument is right next to another small island a short distance away. That other island is near enough to the monument for you to be inflicted with Mining Fatigue, so you can do mining tests on the island without worrying about laser attacks.
- In Bedrock, I've found that the normal level III mining fatigue makes digging sand with almost any tool nearly impossible, but somewhat bearable with an iron shovel.
- I've found that drinking milk lasts about 2 seconds before I get hit with mining fatigue again... so to conquer that monument I need to be able to do it while afflicted. That is why, on my spawn island, I am making an underground slime farm (I discovered the island has a slime chunk), so I can create a few stacks of slime blocks, which can be insta-mined even while afflicted with mining fatigue. I plan to use these to clear out the water. I have also found a heart of the sea to make a conduit, but I don't have enough nautilus shells yet (I've gotten two from fishing so far). ~ Amatulic (talk) 00:54, 21 September 2020 (UTC)
- @Amatulic:, you probably know already but the value is the one in Breaking#SpeedHumiebee (talk) 22:01, 25 January 2021 (UTC)
- Update, 5 months later... I have cleared out the gazebo at the top (made it into a cozy underwater home) and cleared out the top two levels inside the monument, with the help of all my slime blocks and the sponge I got from the top elder guardian. Finding the sponge room helped me clear out most of the third level. No need for a conduit yet, and I have rarely had to swim. That article Tutorials/Defeating a monument gives really ridiculous and worthless advice. I plan to pare it down once I finish with this monument (which could take more months).
- The weird thing is, after I killed that elder guardian, I stopped getting inflicted with Mining Fatigue. It may have hit me once or twice right after I killed it, but for the past week or so (maybe since around the time my Windows Bedrock game updated itself to 1.17.0) there is no more Mining Fatigue. It's like only the top elder guardian was doing anything, and the ones living in the wings just don't care.
- What happened? This article says that Axolotls can prevent Mining Fatigue from happening, but doesn't explain how. Do they spawn inside the monument and kill the other elder guardians? Or does an axolotl's mere existence in the area prevent the elder guardians from inflicting me with Mining Fatigue? There are apparently axolotls around although I haven't see one yet, I just see evidence: A couple times I found prismarine shards floating on the ocean surface, indicating something killed a guardian. It could only be an axolotl.