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First comments below about crashed plane[]
What the...[]
1) Is this an actual unmarked location?
2) Shouldn't it be Mesa crash (whatever) field? 
06:21, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
Maybe maybe not. Richie9999 06:33, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
- Its essentially the same as patriarchs campground. BILLYOCEAN 06:35, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
- Maybe it is maybe it isn't Richie9999 06:43, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
Yes it has spelling errors, those can be fixed. Yes it is a unmarked location. It is uniqe in fact. a crashed prewar military style aircraft.. Not just another Vertabird.
I get some folks don't like me but the page is a valid idea.. Let somebody else rewrite it.. I'm still learning here..
I don't need my ego stroked, I just think this site is as worthy of mention as any other.
SaintPain → That was broke a'fore I got here! 06:42, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
- Its mentioned on the patriarchs campground page though saint pain. BILLYOCEAN 06:46, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
- Some very unfortunate spelling errors. >_>; 06:49, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
- Not to mention the poor formatting, but aside from that, this information is already expressed on the Patriarchs' Campground page. In fact, many locations do the same thing, such as the Coyote Mines with the nearby Coyote min houses. Additionally there is the Silver Peak Mine and the shack, as well as the Panic room in Calvert Mansion. Since they're all unmarked locations, none get their own separate article and are mentioned in the nearest landmarks' article.Kastera (talk) 06:58, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
- Some very unfortunate spelling errors. >_>;
- Yeah.. I had to learn that the hard way -_- Took me 1 hour to make the mine house page because my computer wouldnt quit freaking out.. It does make sense when I think about it though --Battlecattle
07:02, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
- Yeah.. I had to learn that the hard way -_- Took me 1 hour to make the mine house page because my computer wouldnt quit freaking out.. It does make sense when I think about it though --Battlecattle
Keep the page[]
I've seen way worse pages on the wiki in my time here, but I've been told that they are legitimate and need to stay. I think this is a good page, and with a little work it could make an informative article. I know I was curious when I saw the plane in Honest Hearts, but the Patriarch's Campground page only has one sentence mentioning it. I think it should stay, even if my opinion means nothing. 
08:01, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
I must be at least allowed to make a case unedited by others.[]
The sites without a page listed above might need to be made. To say it has not been done is not a just cause. I have not even had a fair hearing. Even BillyOcean, who by the way, I still consider a friend, said I could make my case here. Yet, twice my efforts to add my side to this topic have been deleted. I just want my fair say.
- This page should be written, I conceded it has booth selling errors & the format might need reworking. That is my fault. I am learning how to do these things. Some one any one could edit the page to make it better.
- I am not here to defend my self. I am here to say THIS encounter is unique in Honest Hearts and it is worthy of a page. No where eles in this DLC do we find a plane like this. If you want to block it because you feel it is not canon then you join the ranks of those who blocked books from the Bible just as old and notable, becase you don't agree with thier tex. If you block this page you deny a game fact.
- I can post the image or you can look for your self. My point is this plane is unique in Honest Hearts and as such, no matter how close it is to another site, this location should be more than a foot note. The whole area the plane overlooks is scattered with relics more important to Honest Hearts than just another cookie cutter campsite, named or not.
My points are valid and a dislike for me should not inter into this. If you call your self "just" give me a chance.
- I really am just here to help.
SaintPain → That was broke a'fore I got here! 09:23, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
Who nominated it for deletion in the first place? 09:30, July 9, 2011 (UTC)
- I did. Saint Pain and I have been discussing it in the chat. He doesn't feel like he is being treated fair, but I'm not entirely sure why....BILLYOCEAN 09:32, July 9, 2011 (UTC)