If Colonel Autumn had been able to successfully overthrow Eden, destroy the Brotherhood, and take control of the Capitol Wasteland, how do you think he would have treated synths, and dealt with the Institute?
If Colonel Autumn had been able to successfully overthrow Eden, destroy the Brotherhood, and take control of the Capitol Wasteland, how do you think he would have treated synths, and dealt with the Institute?
Too many what ifs for me.
Hard to say. In Raven Rock and Adam's AFB you see some Institute-esque experiments to weaponise mutants, study FEV and so forth; but at the same time their rationale is that they're the US government and have the authority to sanction such actions.
Likely the Enclave wouldn't accept the Institute operating independently and neither would the Institute accept the authority of any surface-dwellers. When it comes to synths, they'd likely be interested purely in Coursers and other potential military applications- so in that regard they're the most likely group to resume manufacture of gen 1s, 2s and Coursers; they have both the technical knowledge and low morals sufficient for such a task.
As far as any gen 3 that isn't a courser goes, they'd have as much to fear from the Enclave as anyone else- which is to say a lot. Colonel Autumn might stop short of slipping genocide juice in everyone's water, but everything else is A-OK by him, the kidnappings (pardon me, "arrest and detention"), killing of civilians and sinister experiments all have his seal of approval and continue even after JH Eden is shutdown. Autumn practically brags on the radio that he's willing to kill anyone that gets in the Enclave's way, civilian or soldier.
I guess if you're looking for a lack of discrimination then you'll get it from Autumn's Enclave. They are, if nothing else- "indiscriminate."
Idk. The enclave in fo3 are pretty inept. Im still wondering here 13 years later why they never went to Megaton, grabbed the atomic bomb, and used it on the BOS. They literally could have destroyed the citadel and then seized project purity. But no. They didnt even try to weaken their worst enemy before making an extremely risky move
If they don’t bother each other I doubt either one would care
It would have been a matter of acquisition, rather than crusading for destruction. If the Enclave could not absorb the Institute’s science staff, in full or piecemeal, then the residents might be dealt with all the same, but unlike the Brotherhood, there is no dogmatic call to destroy every last trace of scary knowledge. On the contrary, the Enclave loves scary knowledge. So unless it is a matter of necessity, kill or be killed, it’s unlikely the Enclave option would play out like any of the three opposing forces in game.
The Institute’s facility, the research, and the means of synth production would not have to be outright destroyed. The RR may or may not have to be destroyed, with the result largely being dependent on what, if anything, the Enclave would do with the synth program. But there's no reason to believe the Enclave would pursue escaped synths or have a need to destroy them.
Most of the main problems folks have with the Brotherhood would likely be dodged entirely... But the unknown factor is what problems might replace those?
Might the Enclave simply take the throne of Commonwealth boogie man? Maybe. Might they have recent watched the Terminator holotapes and decided that rather than full, living synths who might rebel and begin producing their own army, the program would be better suited to flash close organs or repair injuries? Maybe. Might they throw synths by the wayside to dive deeper into other research done here? Yeah, sure. What if they continue the program, but are smart enough to only hand out the cool fun jobs, instead of making sentient beings to push broom and endlessly day labor? Hell, you might not need an SRB if you stop making living creatures to suffer as slaves in perpetual boredom. This is where there are too many unknown factors for me. Putting the Enclave in the region is an easy enough premise, but in the long term, it’s much more difficult to guess how they would compare to Maxon’s incarnation of the Brotherhood. Hell, F4 as it sits right now does not even know what the longer for the BoS endgame is.
^^Plenty of reasons dropping the Megaton nuke would not be viable, but the most important one is that it is an needlessly dangerous waste of resources. The Enclave already have the ability to crater the Citadel from orbit, without injecting even more radiation into the Capital Wasteland, just a short distance from Project Purity. That would have been an excellent way to ruin the Project for everyone, and would defeat the whole purpose of fighting for it.
And even if it was a traditional explosive, actually moving the thing without it being damaged by ground fire or the vertibird shot down would be difficult. That’s going to be a large slow moving target, more so if it takes multiple vertibirds to actually move the bomb.
But putting aside the nuclear bomb invalidating the ultimate goal of claiming the Project, the Enclave had the Brotherhood on the ropes. There is no planning against a protagonist who is so capable it’s basically magic. Without the LW, the Brotherhood do not win the battle at Adams Air Force Base, and they may not have made it long enough to deploy Liberty Prime. Speaking of this giant fuck-off robot, while we can speculate the Enclave might wanted to spare the ruins of the Pentagon so that they might claim the robot, it is also possible they had no idea the Prime was still there or had been repaired. And Prime is only unveiled during the assault on Purity, so it’s not as if there was a great time to plan for Prime.
He’d do like most American Military leaders do. Talk softly but carry a big stick. Most likely would try diplomacy and if that didn’t work take what he wants by force. The enclave only care to what ends can things be used to further there cause. There a morally grey faction they do things we consider from an outsider looking in as horrendous. But we in the real world do the same thing when we pick sides. No matter how terrible, cruel, or selfish our side is we will defend it to the death.
Well step one is to get into the Institute.
Whereas all the cavemen on the surface sit around gawking, the Enclave would probably drag an artillery cannon over and blow a hole into the Institute's roof. Then Autumn would basically do what he did at Project Purity: Ask politely for absolute control, then shoot Shaun in the face when he refuses. It will then be a bloodbath as the Enclave sweep in and kill anyone else not willing to submit. And also possibly just kill Li cause it's personal.
After that the Institute will pretty much just be another Enclave base, with Shaun's DNA being used to create a "pure" breed of synths with false memories of the good ol days, since actual Americans are pretty hard to come by.
^^Don't be fooled by the Enclave's pretention, their claims to the United State's legacy- they're less "talk softly and carry a big stick" and more "make loud, belligerent threats and carry a death ray capable of disintegrating an entire village."
They're not a morally grey faction representing the flaws of American foreign policy like the NCR, they're a moral abyss. Straight up supervillains.
I think they'd take the evil scientists and exterminate the others. I don't think they'd like synth imposters since they destroyed JHE. maybe they'd use the synths as soldiers rather than secretly control settlements
Probably would of teamed up with the institute till they found out they were contaminated form previous generation then take them out and start there own synth production
What do you think?