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Hang on, Ausir, don't you think it's a reasonable note to mention the fact that he was a FotA and all of them got killed, hence he probably got killed? In fact, since "destroyed" was the only accessible option in Fallout, THAT should be considered canon, not the happy ending just because it got mentioned in VB. That's pretty rediculous. - Kharn
- Well, Chris Avellone also said that the happy ending for FoTA is canon in the Fallout Bible, and I tend to treat it as more or less canon unless it is contradicted in the actual games. It being not available in the actual game is simply a bug, let's not make it anything more than that. Otherwise we'll have to state from a setting point of view that the car trunk tends to mysteriously disappear. Ausir 08:57, 10 Aug 2005 (CEST)
- I hardly think MCA is anything to go by, you know my opinion on that. It's rather rediculous to take the buggy Hub and FotA endings as non-canon. Remember, they're what happens in the game, even after patching, and they're not contradicted in the canon of Fallout 2. Van Buren and the Fallout Bible are, for the most part, non-canon if they contradict canon set by Fallout 1 and 2, which is what the destruction is, as a post-patch bug. At the least, you should consider both endings equally canon until one is finally determined by a canon game/document, like, say, Fallout 3 - Kharn
- Well, as I said, I consider Fallout Bible as semi-canon, which means that I use stuff from it when it does not contradict other sources. If it is contradicted in future games, the article will be changed accordingly. I also plan to reference all sources in articles so that it is known what came from where. Anyway, a lot of stuff first published in the Fallout Bible (although mostly the stuff taken from old documents, like Vault Experiment or the Timeline) is definitely treated as canon by most people. And as for buggy endings, I referred to the happy ones as buggy, since they were unavailable because of a bug. Both endings are just as valid. As I said, Fallout Bible is not as canon as the games themselves, but I consider it semi-canon which means that if there are two equally valid options, I present the one supported in the Bible as canon and the other one as an alternative. Ausir 01:24, 11 Aug 2005 (CEST)
Now that Harold has put down roots, they need to bring this guy back.--OvaltinePatrol 05:10, June 30, 2011 (UTC)