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DR?[]

I saw that someone wrote that it adds DR of 5 in addition to the DT of 15. Can anyone confirm this? I had a DR of 5 before I put it on, and it stayed the same. So I didn't see it. Xarxes 20:10, May 21, 2011 (UTC)

Out of curiosity how did you get your DR to 5? I thought the only thing that gave DR was the rebreather, and that's 3.Kara MacNamara 01:10, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

I have a save editor for the xbox, I kind of added my own "perk" haha Xarxes 16:21, October 1, 2011 (UTC)

Double-checked via FNVEdit and the GECK, the armor has 0 DR and the worn effect (that gives +3% crit chance) also provides no DR. 75.81.186.55 18:34, May 28, 2011 (UTC)

Burns?[]

As pointed out in the notes, Graham is seen wearin this armor when he was a legate. Which means his armor was more flame retardent than Graham himself was (the armor does not look burned at all, despite having been set on fire). --Radnus 13:05, May 22, 2011 (UTC)

Yeah it doesn't make any sense his clothing would have been destroyed. That's why he should've been wearing some form of Legate armor in the opening sequence. It's just a mistake by the developers. BatmanVampireNinja 00:26, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Not really a mistake. Sawyer explained it: http://web.archive.org/web/20130209011941/www.formspring.me/JESawyer/q/196859492246262438 Doesn't make it less annoying, though. :> --Mr.Lexx(talk) 15:19, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Caesar's reaction[]

Does anyone know if Caesar reacts in any way to seeing the Courier wearing his (supposedly dead) Legate's armor? --Wiseman of the Wastes 15:16, May 23, 2011 (UTC)

Iv'e spoken directly to Caesar whilst wearing the armour. No effect nor any additional dialogue options. So no. Mr.Çr¥þtêÐ (Talk) 04:32, June 5, 2011 (UTC)

Is this better than..[]

Is this better than using the Desert Ranger Combat armor? I mean it has less DT, but Crit chance, combined with that of the 1st Recon Ber. Just got this today (On ps3) and can't figure out what I should use.

Only you can really answer that, as it depends on how (or if) you roleplay your character, your perks, and weapon preference. For ex. I go for a high crit chance, but don't wear the 1st Recon beret as I don't like the look of it - I'll take the stat drop for RP purposes. I have Light Touch and Travel Light, so Medium armor (Desert Ranger) is not much use for me, but I have Small Frame, so Joshua's armor fits the roleplay with it's bandaged knee. Basically, try them on and see which looks coolest. Also, you don't have to wear the same thing all the time. You are allowed to change clothes :-), so carry both and switch if you need more DT or crits. --FourWayDiablo 02:47, June 30, 2011 (UTC)

Does Light Touch have no affect on this armor?[]

Is it true that Light Touch does not work with this armor? Dragofireheart 16:52, June 19, 2011 (UTC)

O i didn't know that... if it's true, that sucks. Mr.Çr¥þtêÐ (Talk) 09:18, June 20, 2011 (UTC)

Someone on the Joshua Graham's armor talk page verified in the GECK that Light touch *does* affect this armor. I'm removing the statement in order to keep the two pages from contradicting each other. Chainsaw32 14:59, June 23, 2011 (UTC)

Page image[]

I just noticed the page image consists of the armor and gloves, wich are absent in-game as you can see on the last image from the gallery. So my question is, who added the image took the armor straight from the GECK or from somewhere else? K1LL 18:43, July 5, 2011 (UTC)

Shirt Pattern[]

I've noticed there's very little mention of the pattern on Graham's clothes. The article here, which does mention it, describes them as Dead Horse tribal pattern, but the light shirt Graham is wearing underneath is actually the top of half a pair of Temple garments. Temple garments are clothes that members of The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints wear when performing and receiving their most sacred covenants and endowments inside a Temple. Jonathan Dewar 01:36, July 29, 2011 (UTC)

If true, that's pretty cool. You should put it in the main article. Makes total sense since Graham is Mormon. ~ Anonymous of the Wastes July 30, 2011

Can someone say the real base ID of Joshua Graham's armor,and ıs ıt possıble to use ıt ın vıa console?(killerstein)

Deleted a useless note[]

I didn't think this note "* Strangely enough, while the Courier does not show the bandages on the arms while wearing this outfit, the bandages are on one leg which can be seen from a hole in the left knee. This is possibly due to being part of the outfit's skin, and rather than the bandages on the arms being part of the outfit, it is really part of Joshua Graham's skin design instead." was necessary with the new one saying about his NPC version. Xarxes 15:12, September 25, 2011 (UTC)

Is it possible to get 2 copies?[]

I'm wondering because I saw on Joshua's page you can pickpocket him, so can you take one off him and then get another at the end?

It is pretty much impossible to normally obtain 2 copies of this armor since the NPC Joshua Graham in Honest Hearts wears a NPC-only version of the armor which has a DT of 40 (higher than any obtainable armor in-game) and has the bandaged arms as well. Due this high DT, you cannot reverse-pickpocket it off of him since he will not equip any armor that has a DT lower than 40. The same goes for attempting to obtain his head-wrap, which has a DT of 10, yet again, higher than any obtainable headgear in-game. The only way to obtain these two items is with console commands since making the attempt to place them in the player's inventory with a Visual Editor will not make them show up or will not allow you to equip them. --EvoB (talk) 05:34, December 28, 2013 (UTC)



Actually, just recently I figured out a way to get two of Jashua's armor sets but just copys of the weaker version. If that is any help...I will explain should question arise. This also however gives you the ability to kill the main characters without the main quest ending. Xbox 360 tested only. --User:DirtyWolfy (talk) 05:53, January 05, 2014 (EST)

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