do you think thirst could require purified water?
we could get purified water from:
- one cacti block!
- sea water after being desalinizated (could be at furnace, a bucket of water would become a salt+pureWater package, that could be split at craft table into water cup and salt; and could use water cup to fill the waterskin; there may have better/cooler ways to do that of course :smile.gif:)
- river/lake/waterfall water
thx!!
EDIT: I would like to say that it was not showing the indicators (food, thirst, lives and stamina), no mater what I did (new world etc etc); only after I disabled all mods and tried this alone, it showed up; then I added all other mods in the same order that was before, and it kept working; I still have no idea why but it worked :smile.gif:
EDIT AGAIN: I wonder if it is possible to have the RIP block + chest with items, when we die our last life? it would be very cool!!! combined with the death waypoint I asked at CJB minimap mod would be amazing :biggrin.gif:
I like the survival aspect of this mod, but I don't like the lives setting.
Is there a way to disable lives and just have the survival options?
Also, what is the "specific support" needed for somnia mod?
And also new world options: Off and Basic? Difference?
OP isn't very clear with how the mod works. :sad.gif:
I'd really love to start a Lets Play with survival in mind, and while the current Hunger bar is interesting, it just isn't hard enough. I'd love to have your mod available with all the updates that 1.8 brings.
lol I also think that news of this being updated for 1.8/1.9 or further would be intriguing, Notch has done hunger, and I rather like it, but thirst I doubt we will ever see, and lives and succession mode sounded very interesting.
I would like to make a sugestion to vanilla 1.8.1 hunger, to make improvements to it:
The hunger is strange, you only heal if you are fully full of fully food, weird...
We should heal slower and slower until about has only remaining 1/3 of food bar, then you not heal, and when zeroed you get slow damage.
I would like to tweak (increase) the hunger speed, it is soo slow that I am always fully full of fully food :sad.gif:
I liked more the way your hunger worked, so you could tweak the current 1.8.1 one and expose some variables to we tweak even more?
-> hunger speed
-> damage amount on starving
-> how much food required to still heal... (that 1/3 of food I said)
Now, about thirst.. I miss it !!! I wonder if your already implemented canteen could be only filled with cactus water (the only non salt water "available"), you could make that optional tho.., and you would only be able to drink from that water! not from the sea! I wonder if there is a way to differentiate lake from sea?
the stamina bar should affect our speed, jump height (too strained and you cant even jump over a single block, you may even drawn at water!) and mining speed, and fight damage, would be cool! it should last some more time before we recover so we can feel it is something we must care about! let us tweak that too :biggrin.gif:
Please update this to 1.8, I'm getting bored with MC being too easy and other mods making it easier.
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dude! I 1000% agree with you!!! if you wanna I can pm you a list of mods making the game more cool and challenging to me :smile.gif: (1.8.1 mainly moCreatures and castleDefense)
Is there anyway you could make just a thirst bar for 1.8 ? :biggrin.gif: that would be amazing. Im trying to recreate the hunger games and it would be hard to do withought thirst
Its not terribad, but its nothing like this mod. It goes down too slowly for my taste, but at least its in vanilla.
Adding thirst would be nice, and I love the idea of eating raw foods poisoning you. Its just hunger takes a long time to get started.
Maybe this mod can change to altering the speed of vanilla hunger, but also adding thirst and bandages and removing regen health from food?
The food bar lasts too many days...
Alternatively and optionally:
I wonder if the health restoration could be limited on the food bar ammount!? :biggrin.gif: so it would heal at most where the food bar is, in other words: if 3 food points, you will be healed at most 3 health points!
raw food could have a poisoning chance, or a vomiting (loosing food bar points) chance.
there seems that if you are full of food, and eat more, it will increase on a non visible ammount of food that will be used before the max visible begin decreasing?!
but we would regen with what then? potions? I think it is good from being fed and I like this regen being slow (and could be slower if you are low in food).
Any development of this mod is completely halted until Minecraft development stabilizes again and I review what I feel needs to be re-worked. So far we already have a hunger system in base now and soon a hardcore mode to boot. The way things are going I might only need to tweak what's in base rather than make the extensive modifications the original versions of Survivalism required.
Any development of this mod is completely halted until Minecraft development stabilizes again and I review what I feel needs to be re-worked. So far we already have a hunger system in base now and soon a hardcore mode to boot. The way things are going I might only need to tweak what's in base rather than make the extensive modifications the original versions of Survivalism required.
Will this mean more or less time between whenever you start and finish? lol I'd be more interested in a succession mode than straight hardcore, if it's what i think it is. I think your mod added the things minecraft still needs and I don't find it until it's out of date hahaha
Will this mean more or less time between whenever you start and finish? lol I'd be more interested in a succession mode than straight hardcore, if it's what i think it is. I think your mod added the things minecraft still needs and I don't find it until it's out of date hahaha
Well succession probably won't get added to the base game so it's a likely case for porting to the new versions.
Any development of this mod is completely halted until Minecraft development stabilizes again and I review what I feel needs to be re-worked. So far we already have a hunger system in base now and soon a hardcore mode to boot. The way things are going I might only need to tweak what's in base rather than make the extensive modifications the original versions of Survivalism required.
Fair enough. Code halt on the 18th I believe, so it should be stable until november when it gets released.
Anyways, please keep energy and thirst! Maybe rework how to regen energy, but please don't downgrade its current features.
I do feel badly that Notch's hunger system is the one that automatically gets added since atleast in my opinion and I'm sure many others as well that yours was much better.
Voodoo, you are a great modder and I hope that you know that you have a great many who support you. Survivalism was and is the greatest gameply mod I've ever seen, and I swear that I've never enjoyed any mod nearly as much. Survivalism gives you a reason to keep going in the game. It makes Minecraft more real then ever before. Another modder who had a great idea was Kinniken, the millenaire maker. He designed the first NPC villages, and when 1.9 came he simply continued. Once this madness of updates is over I hope to see Survivalism up and running as well as it always has.
Very nice mod. I ll look to add this up to my list of standard used mod.
I find the 3 lives is kind of a little too hard.
And I dont like the formula to create a "life protection spell";
The 4 diamond is somehow hard to get and these are really useful in game.
Maybe spawn a special block into the nether(can only be found there) that can be digged up?
Formula for the "soul change" could be like 4 soul sand and a special block?
Also, this this should "give" 2 expandable lives IMO.
Loosing inventory is kind of hard already.
Really, really nice mod.
Keep up the good work
*Edited
Obviously, because even I couldnt understand myself :tongue.gif:
btw, I miss a thirst mod, I cant find one :sad.gif:, if someone finds one I would like to know, thx!
also, it would be better if instead of we be able to drink sea/salt water (normal water everywhere..) I think it should require a canteen and to use cacti or snow to get proper water, or a desalinizator...
we could get purified water from:
- one cacti block!
- sea water after being desalinizated (could be at furnace, a bucket of water would become a salt+pureWater package, that could be split at craft table into water cup and salt; and could use water cup to fill the waterskin; there may have better/cooler ways to do that of course :smile.gif:)
- river/lake/waterfall water
thx!!
EDIT: I would like to say that it was not showing the indicators (food, thirst, lives and stamina), no mater what I did (new world etc etc); only after I disabled all mods and tried this alone, it showed up; then I added all other mods in the same order that was before, and it kept working; I still have no idea why but it worked :smile.gif:
EDIT AGAIN: I wonder if it is possible to have the RIP block + chest with items, when we die our last life? it would be very cool!!! combined with the death waypoint I asked at CJB minimap mod would be amazing :biggrin.gif:
"truth is a pathless land" - Jiddu Krishnamurti
Is there a way to disable lives and just have the survival options?
Also, what is the "specific support" needed for somnia mod?
And also new world options: Off and Basic? Difference?
OP isn't very clear with how the mod works. :sad.gif:
I'd really love to start a Lets Play with survival in mind, and while the current Hunger bar is interesting, it just isn't hard enough. I'd love to have your mod available with all the updates that 1.8 brings.
Update soon pretty please, this mod makes my game so much more interesting.
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Curse PremiumI would like to make a sugestion to vanilla 1.8.1 hunger, to make improvements to it:
The hunger is strange, you only heal if you are fully full of fully food, weird...
We should heal slower and slower until about has only remaining 1/3 of food bar, then you not heal, and when zeroed you get slow damage.
I would like to tweak (increase) the hunger speed, it is soo slow that I am always fully full of fully food :sad.gif:
I liked more the way your hunger worked, so you could tweak the current 1.8.1 one and expose some variables to we tweak even more?
-> hunger speed
-> damage amount on starving
-> how much food required to still heal... (that 1/3 of food I said)
Now, about thirst.. I miss it !!! I wonder if your already implemented canteen could be only filled with cactus water (the only non salt water "available"), you could make that optional tho.., and you would only be able to drink from that water! not from the sea! I wonder if there is a way to differentiate lake from sea?
the stamina bar should affect our speed, jump height (too strained and you cant even jump over a single block, you may even drawn at water!) and mining speed, and fight damage, would be cool! it should last some more time before we recover so we can feel it is something we must care about! let us tweak that too :biggrin.gif:
thx!!! :biggrin.gif:
@hero_bash
dude! I 1000% agree with you!!! if you wanna I can pm you a list of mods making the game more cool and challenging to me :smile.gif: (1.8.1 mainly moCreatures and castleDefense)
"truth is a pathless land" - Jiddu Krishnamurti
Its not terribad, but its nothing like this mod. It goes down too slowly for my taste, but at least its in vanilla.
Adding thirst would be nice, and I love the idea of eating raw foods poisoning you. Its just hunger takes a long time to get started.
Maybe this mod can change to altering the speed of vanilla hunger, but also adding thirst and bandages and removing regen health from food?
The food bar lasts too many days...
Alternatively and optionally:
I wonder if the health restoration could be limited on the food bar ammount!? :biggrin.gif: so it would heal at most where the food bar is, in other words: if 3 food points, you will be healed at most 3 health points!
raw food could have a poisoning chance, or a vomiting (loosing food bar points) chance.
there seems that if you are full of food, and eat more, it will increase on a non visible ammount of food that will be used before the max visible begin decreasing?!
but we would regen with what then? potions? I think it is good from being fed and I like this regen being slow (and could be slower if you are low in food).
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Curse PremiumWill this mean more or less time between whenever you start and finish? lol I'd be more interested in a succession mode than straight hardcore, if it's what i think it is. I think your mod added the things minecraft still needs and I don't find it until it's out of date hahaha
Well succession probably won't get added to the base game so it's a likely case for porting to the new versions.
Fair enough. Code halt on the 18th I believe, so it should be stable until november when it gets released.
Anyways, please keep energy and thirst! Maybe rework how to regen energy, but please don't downgrade its current features.
Voodoo, you are a great modder and I hope that you know that you have a great many who support you. Survivalism was and is the greatest gameply mod I've ever seen, and I swear that I've never enjoyed any mod nearly as much. Survivalism gives you a reason to keep going in the game. It makes Minecraft more real then ever before. Another modder who had a great idea was Kinniken, the millenaire maker. He designed the first NPC villages, and when 1.9 came he simply continued. Once this madness of updates is over I hope to see Survivalism up and running as well as it always has.
I find the 3 lives is kind of a little too hard.
And I dont like the formula to create a "life protection spell";
The 4 diamond is somehow hard to get and these are really useful in game.
Maybe spawn a special block into the nether(can only be found there) that can be digged up?
Formula for the "soul change" could be like 4 soul sand and a special block?
Also, this this should "give" 2 expandable lives IMO.
Loosing inventory is kind of hard already.
Really, really nice mod.
Keep up the good work
*Edited
Obviously, because even I couldnt understand myself :tongue.gif:
there are some ppl that know how to update other ppls mods,
check this thread, it is alive cuz of them!
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/508886-mc-v173-mod-v173-x-better-grass-leaves-mod/page__st__200__gopid__10025945#entry10025945
also this:
http://www.minecraftforum.net/topic/658494-181coupons-mod-updates/
the seasons will come soon I expect!
you may try asking them!
btw, I miss a thirst mod, I cant find one :sad.gif:, if someone finds one I would like to know, thx!
also, it would be better if instead of we be able to drink sea/salt water (normal water everywhere..) I think it should require a canteen and to use cacti or snow to get proper water, or a desalinizator...
"truth is a pathless land" - Jiddu Krishnamurti