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Autodescription — naturalist (Q18805)
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The term "natural scientist" is virtually nonexistent in English. However, the term naturalist can be applied to anybody working in any of the natural sciences, if only in a historical sense. (And I don't think the historical nature of this term for all scientists in the natural sciences differs between languages that much. The German word isn't really applied to modern biologists or physicists often either, is it?) Most of the Wikipedia articles are about terms closer to the English term—and cognate words also derived from French. Innotata (talk) 22:05, 27 September 2014 (UTC)
Terminology confusion
[edit]I think there's some cross-language confusion about terminology here. In English, naturalists are typically folks who study plants, animals and natural history. In German, "Naturwissenschaft" includes physics and chemistry as well. These two concepts don't seem identical to me, which can cause confusion (for example, I just removed "naturalist" as a subclass from Q593644 (chemist)).-Eloquence (talk)
- @Eloquence: Yeah, that’s a known issue. The German label should probably read “Naturforscher“. According to w:de:Naturgeschichte, this fits the spirit of the item better. --Emu (talk) 20:41, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- ping @Zaccarias, @Doc Taxon, @Gymnicus --Emu (talk) 20:51, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Emu: Wouldn't it make sense to separate the German term from the English term? --Gymnicus (talk) 22:09, 7 January 2023 (UTC)
- No, this item here means not a "Naturwissenschaftler" in German, but a "Naturforscher". Therefore we'd have to change the German item label. Then we have to create an item "Naturwissenschaftler" uniting e.g. physicist, chemist and biologist with it, if there's not such an item yet. Doc Taxon (talk) 10:40, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- @Doc Taxon: So what I said. Exactly what you describe is a separation of the German term from the English term. --Gymnicus (talk) 15:23, 9 January 2023 (UTC)
- No, this item here means not a "Naturwissenschaftler" in German, but a "Naturforscher". Therefore we'd have to change the German item label. Then we have to create an item "Naturwissenschaftler" uniting e.g. physicist, chemist and biologist with it, if there's not such an item yet. Doc Taxon (talk) 10:40, 9 January 2023 (UTC)