Anyone have any thoughts on that Hellboy trailer? I love the characters but I’m just not feeling the excitement this time. I was day dreaming the other day about Del Toro doing a sequel but in stop motion animation.
@AgentCooper It's funny, because I was about to ask the same thing. I'm curious as to what "proper" Hellboy fans think. I actually thought it looked like a potentially cool supernatural horror flick with images of Hellboy spliced in For all I know, this is the kind of tone the comics set, but I really couldn't say.
I loved the first Del Toro movie, didn't care all that much for the second and skipped the new non-Del Toro version completely, so I don't have all that much experience with the character.
And Hellboy looked a bit "off" to me, but that is probably because Perlman inhabited that character so well that it just feels weird when it's someone else
Annual rewatch of "Jaws". Still brilliant. Go backwards and forwards on whether Robert Shaw as Quint or Rutger Hauer as Batty is my favourite movie performance of all time.
@AgentCooper@FuriousMachine I first got into the comics because of Del Toro's movie's. I do really like those movies, but they are nothing like the comics.
The last movie was plagued with lots of stuff behind the scenes and had lots of unfinished looking FX shots. But it was pretty faithful to the comic, just a strange point in HB's life to adapt as it's quite a lengthy story in the comics so squeezing it into one film definitely didn't help.
As for the new one. It's taken from a fantastic story drawn by the excellent Richard Corben. Apart from not having yellow eyes, the design of HB looks great. The sloping shoulders, the coat all look spot on. In the comics big red is never consistently the same colour. Depending on lighting and what his situation is he will be different shades of red, he's even been greys and other dull colours.
This is one of the stories where Hellboy just happens to be thrown into investigate and doesn't really explore his background. It's more of the horror vibe from the comics rather than the fantasy that Del Toro went with for his outings, especially The Golden Army!
@AgentCooper@MightyDemon82 I watched the trailer again just now and I must say I'm liking the full on horror vibes it gives off and hope that's the tone in the movie as well. I'll definitely keep an eye out for this one. Probably won't come to the theatres over here, but here's hoping!
@FuriousMachine The thing is that Hellboy is a quiet comic for the most part. People want a blockbuster but in reality, the lower budget horror dripping in atmosphere is where Hellboy will fit very well. I've been a fan of Hellboy and Mike Mignola's art/ storytelling for 20 years. Always happy to check out adaptations but nothing can beat the comics especially when Mike is behind both the story and the art.
@MightyDemon82 Love to hear that! If this new movie pulls off the "horror dripping in atmosphere" thing it will so be my jam
Read up on the movie over at bloody-disgusting.com and the fact that Mignola and Christopher Golden are writing it fills me with promise. Brian Taylor as a director takes away some of that promise again, though (apart from "Crank", his movies have been... not very good, in my opinion)
@FuriousMachine@MightyDemon82 I haven’t gotten round to reading the comics I’m ashamed to say, I loved Del Toro and just went along for the ride. I’m going to remain open minded about the new film especially following your comments MD 👍
@LN78 Saw a news story earlier about a Lego set of the famous boat eating scene. Very cool. Anyway, it made me want to watch the film myself so I'll probably seek it out this week.
@Malaise You can't really go wrong. If physical media is your thing, the most recent 4K release is reference quality and it usually shows up in the 2 for 1 deals these days.
@LN78 It used to be. At one point I had over 4000 discs, but I've moved around more than the average so I actually don't have a single one anymore. Sold the vast majority, but a few rarities are in a box at my brothers house. Anyway, I appreciate the suggestion, but I'll watch it on a streaming service.
@Malaise I gave a whole ton of DVDs to a charity shop when I got a PS4. Since then I've tried to only only buy films on disc that I know I like and will rewatch, especially on 4K as they are bit more expensive. My collection is now mainly films I grew up with like Alien, Aliens, Predator, The Thing to more recent films like Sicario, Get Out, The Batman.
Used be much more a scattergun approach with DVDs. Ended up with a wholemload films I only watched the once and didn't like. Much like PlayStation games with all the sales on the store, I've accumulated way too many games I know what to do with. Which is why I almost never buy any games these days, and either play something that is in my backlog or whatever is on PS Plus.
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@JohnnyShoulder That's a good idea. Maybe I'll do a little collection of personal favourites one day, but that's how it starts. 😅
Same with games. I have an obscene amount, most bought for next to nothing. Regardless, I do need to kerb that and just play more of what I actually already have instead of scouring sales. Especially since my gaming interest has dwindled somewhat lately.
@JohnnyShoulder@Malaise I'm just now getting used to NOT buying the latest version of every movie that I want for my collection. If it's on blu-ray then I've stopped buying a 4K upgrade in most instances. I don't have Prime or Netflix subscriptions and just binge watch everything I want to see on those services when I do my yearly stint housesitting for my brother. I love having a beautfully curated movie collection sitting in my AV room but I'll cry in unlikely event that 8K discs ever become a thing. There's only so many times a person should have to buy "Raiders of the Lost Ark".
@LN78 Am I wrong in thinking we're already at, or close to, the limit of what detail the human eye can see? 8K might make a difference if we all get 100" screens? If anything, I think the detail we're at only serves to make the imperfections stand out more, and sometimes additional detail actually detracts from the experience, particularly in grimy settings. I'm over-thinking it, but it's an interesting rabbit hole to go down.
@Malaise You can see the actors’ and actressess’ imperfections too. Some of them aged like 20 years immediately when seen in 4K. 😅
I think we will have 8K though. At 80 inches it is already available, and I think it will be available in some smaller sizes eventually, but I’m not sure how much difference it will show on the smaller screens. It will be great for the large home theater setups though.
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@Th3solution I may have mentioned this before (ages ago) but on the 4K version of "The Mask of Zorro" the close-ups of Ms.Zeta-Jones appear to have been filmed through a thick layer of Vaseline. I believe "soft focus" is the polite term - but the rest of the movie is so pixel sharp that they stood out like a sore thumb. Distracting at first but then more and more amusing.
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