Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/Wild Cartoon Kingdom

The following discussion is an archived debate of the proposed deletion of the article below. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.

The result was merge to Chris Gore. Sandstein 17:53, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

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This article doesn't adequately establish its claim to notability. I can't find any significant coverage (most web results are just selling back issues of the magazine) and I don't think it meets media notability guidelines either. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 18:32, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Note: This discussion has been included in the list of Comics and animation-related deletion discussions. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 18:32, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Redirect to Chris Gore, the magazine's creator. I cannot find anything more than small mentions of the magazine, probably due to its very brief run and pre-internet existence, so the WP:GNG is not met. It is mentioned on the main article on its creator, though, so Redirecting there would probably be a good idea. There is not really anything in the way of sourced content that needs to be merged, though. Rorshacma (talk) 21:53, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Strong Keep - the magazine has strong ties to John Kricfalusi, who ghostwrote a large portion of the articles - I had this mentioned in a previous revision of the article, but someone deleted it. TheNewMinistry (talk) 22:43, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Hey TheNewMinistry. It looks like the bit about ties to Kricfalusi was removed as an uncited claim. Do you have any sources for it? At any rate, I don't think ties to a notable person make the magazine itself inherently notable. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 23:18, 5 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  • Here's a few - [1] [2] TheNewMinistry (talk) 04:03, 7 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

  Yeah, per WP:NOTINHERITED, having a notable person be involved does not automatically confer notability to the magazine itself. There needs to actually be significant coverage in reliable sources on the magazine itself for it to meet the WP:GNG. Rorshacma (talk) 01:03, 6 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Comment TheNewMinistry has significantly improved the article, adding lots more information and sources. I've not had chance to evaluate it properly, but it's looking miles better than when I nominated it. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 10:56, 8 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion and clearer consensus.
Relisting comment: Assess improvements made by TheNewMinistry.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Natg 19 (talk) 01:55, 12 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

• Redirect to Chris Gore, I checked the additional references, and they are all passing mentions, not anything that contributes to SIGCOV, so GNG is still not met. Devonian Wombat (talk) 23:22, 13 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Comment at this point, I'd love to say keep. But it just doesn't meet the notability requirements and I don't think it appears particularly significant or influential. I think there's a lot of content here which could be merged into Chris Gore. MarchOfTheGreyhounds (talk) 13:19, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Keep or Merge - since the magazine is an offshoot of Film Threat, would it be alright if I merged a relevant passage into that article instead? The first issue even had "Film Threat presents Wild Cartoon Kingdom" in its header (link), so it wasn't a separate project of Gore. I think the Film Threat article would be a better home for the information, and it would give me a reason to cleanup that article. TheNewMinistry (talk) 20:37, 14 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]
• Merge and redirect. I am not seeing any SIGCOV of this, some passing mentions, but I am afraid that's not enough. Assuming the current entry is not ORish, a merge would be good, since the content does appear referenced. Ping me if SIGCOV is found or arguments based on Wikipedia:Notability (magazines) are made. --_{Piotr Konieczny aka Prokonsul Piotrus| reply here} 11:09, 19 January 2022 (UTC)[reply]

The above discussion is preserved as an archive of the debate. Please do not modify it. Subsequent comments should be made on the appropriate discussion page (such as the article's talk page or in a deletion review). No further edits should be made to this page.