Wikipedia:Articles for deletion/JO-ZERO

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The result was no consensus. Sandstein 12:22, 19 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

JO-ZERO

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I realize I may take some flak for taking this to AfD so soon after it was created, but I think this is a case where no amount of editing can overcome the lack of notability. Simply stated, this article is about a robot that does not appear to have received significant coverage in third-party sources that would result in its meeting WP:GNG. Although a Google search yields 42,000 hits, I've been unable to find any reliable sources. A Google news search only led to a blog post at Crunchygear.com and a handful of posts at Coolest-gadgets.com (a blog?), which I would hesitate to call a reliable source. That's problematic because notability requires verifiable evidence. I don't see it here. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 02:54, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Delete: Regardless of being a stub, it needs a source. Stubs need sources too, otherwise we cannot verify that it exists, and that it is notable. -- 李博杰 | —Talk contribs email 05:38, 4 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Oh, well. I found it so notable that I created it as a stub right away. It is an especially good robot of its kind. I was intending to add more but was very pressed for time. Perhaps when I have time to tell the full story it will satisfy notabilty guideline. Best Regards

Wikkrockiana (talk) 17:06, 8 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Well, if the consensus here is to delete and you want to build off of this content in the future, contact one of the administrators in Category:Wikipedia administrators who will provide copies of deleted articles. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 00:49, 10 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Relisted to generate a more thorough discussion so consensus may be reached.
Please add new comments below this notice. Thanks, Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:09, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

Note: This debate has been included in the list of Technology-related deletion discussions. -- Ron Ritzman (talk) 00:10, 11 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Note: This debate has been included in the list of Japan-related deletion discussions. -- Pcap ping 02:17, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
Keep. There's a long article here about it, which is a top 100 site in Japan by Alexa Ranking, and also one in a TechCrunch site. Some info is contradictory; it seems that some English sources took the name of the company rep, Nakamura to be that of the designer. Also, IREX is a pretty notable expo; here's coverage (The Telegraph) of it, although not about this particular robot. Another Japanese article here, a site owned by the same company as Mainichi Shimbun. Pcap ping 02:43, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
- The Japanese sources are reliable, and the English sources so-so. See User talk:TakuyaMurata#Robot needs your help. Pcap ping 13:00, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
  - Interesting. Can the article be expanded using the Japanese sources? I've no way of knowing, mainly because I don't speak Japanese (which explains why I didn't find those articles). Looking at the references in the article, two of the three English-language sources look unreliable for sure. Robots-dreams.com and Coolest-gadgets.com both appear to be blogs. The other source is, as you noted, a TechCrunch blog; is that considered a reliable source? I searched the WP:RSN archives, but what I found was inconclusive. A Stop at Willoughby (talk) 17:48, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]
    - WP:RS does not exclude foreign language sources, and the English ones are just a summary of the Japanese ones anyway. Pcap ping 18:05, 18 January 2010 (UTC)[reply]

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