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Good articleU.S. Route 412 in Oklahoma has been listed as one of the Engineering and technology good articles under the good article criteria. If you can improve it further, please do so. If it no longer meets these criteria, you can reassess it.
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DateProcessResult
January 24, 2013Good article nomineeListed

HistoryScott5114 [EXACT CHANGE ONLY] 14:08, 24 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

GA Review

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This review is transcluded from Talk:U.S. Route 412 in Oklahoma/GA1. The edit link for this section can be used to add comments to the review.

Reviewer: TCN7JM (talk · contribs) 05:49, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

This is quite the long article you have here. I will review it, but not until later this week. –TCN7JM 05:49, 22 January 2013 (UTC)[reply]

Alright, let's start with one or two opening comments.

Lead

Route description

The Panhandle

  • Nothing to comment on.

Northwest Oklahoma

  • I've never really seen a "(see history)" note before. Are they common/accepted?
  • "Along this stretch, it crosses the Beaver River for the third and final time, though this time it has since become the North Canadian River." This sentence confuses me, as I can't really tell what the last part means.
    • It is trying to convey that sometime between the second and the third crossing, the Beaver River changes names to the North Canadian. It's the same river, though—see Beaver River (Oklahoma). I'm not really sure of a way to reword this though; suggestions?

Northeast Oklahoma

  • "interchange with SH-97 and SH-51, the later of which joins US-64/US-41..." later → latter
  • "northwest corner of the Inner Disperal Loop (IDL)..." The is used before IDL later in the paragraph, so this helps fix a consistency error, too.

History

  • Does Mr. Murphy have a first name?
  • "US-412 Scenic, which was later redesignated US-412 Alternate..." When?
  • I'm not sure on whether or not this is required, but I always cite the last sentence with the newest state map.
  • I'm not seeing anything about pavement. I'd be surprised if they designated a US Highway on an unpaved route as late as '88, but you should probably still mention it.

Tolls

Spurs

Junction list

References

  • One more comment before I start the references later. I can't help but notice that there's no traffic data in this article. Is there any data for Oklahoma?
  • Okay, then. We'll just leave it. The references look A-Okay! Checking some references for verifiability or plagiarism, I found no errors. This too shall pass.

Final verdict

  1. It is reasonably well written.
    a (prose): b (MoS for lead, layout, word choice, fiction, and lists):
  2. It is factually accurate and verifiable.
    a (reference section): b (citations to reliable sources): c (OR):
  3. It is broad in its coverage.
    a (major aspects): b (focused):
  4. It follows the neutral point of view policy.
    Fair representation without bias:
  5. It is stable.
    No edit wars, etc.:
  6. It is illustrated by images and other media, where possible and appropriate.
    a (images are tagged and non-free content have fair use rationales): b (appropriate use with suitable captions):
  7. Overall: My concerns have been addressed. I feel this meets the Good Article criteria.
    Pass/Fail:

Widen/Upgrade

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What are everyone's thoughts on the terms widen or upgrade when referring to the highway going from 2 to 4 lanes or similar situation? My feeling is that upgrade should be avoided, since it is a term of opinion, where widen is just a fact. Perhaps the capacity is "upgraded", but that also means the cost is "downgraded" for instance, and so it seems to me that widen or something of the sort would be better. Looking through other highway articles, it seems these terms are generally used interchangeably at the moment. Engineers often call their designs upgrades no matter what, but that's just your good old propaganda to gain support for a project as Strongtowns has detailed. Thanks! Znns (talk) 04:13, 20 June 2023 (UTC)[reply]