Talk:Nanotechnology

Please add comments about things you would like to have included or sections that should be improved! (KristianMolhave 15:46, 5 June 2006 (UTC))Reply

Particularly these questions taken from the Wikipedia article (which isn't so good either).

• I would appreciate more visual aids to elaborate on both the electromagnetic explanation (physical explanation) and charge-transfer complex (chemical explanation). I barely understand what charge-transfer complex means, but I have no idea how that links to SERS.
• I like the tennis ball + spring system analogy presented on the Raman spectroscopy page. It could be cleaned up and with a few diagrams could make this article much more approachable to newcomers like myself.
• To what extent do you need to understand quantum mechanics to begin interpreting Raman data, specifically SERS? How about electromagnetics? Could these prerequisites be simply motivated and explained in this article?
• I keep hearing about selection rules, are these related to quantum mechanics somehow?
• I also hear that understanding group theory helps explain Raman and a lot of spectroscopic techniques in general. Can someone help explain why?
  • I know it has something to do with symmetry and all these methods have something to do with squishing and twisting and bending chemical bonds, but the math gets very boring and uninteresting and it's easy to lose sight of why I'm learning it.
• Can someone perhaps fix up the article to include some more contextual information like where near-IR, mid-IR, far-IR, etc. methods fit in, perhaps with some nice animated GIFs showing what goes on in each? 68.126.191.150 (discuss) 21:44, 20 April 2012 (UTC)Reply

Much excellent work has gone into this article since April, and it is now 45 KB long. Perhaps it is time to begin splitting it into several articles? If not now, what criteria do we use to determine when it should be split? ~ Nanobug 13:39, 28 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Yes it seems to be about 'split-up' time. I have been waiting for more contributors to join, so we can settle on a structure of the material, and once thats settled, then split it up (and then I like the idea that the whole book could be printed out in one go - but as it stands now its not suitable for printing as its mainly links in many sections) KristianMolhave 19:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

I checked some of the other wikibooks, as we would probably want to structure it similar to those, and it appears they all have a front page which is basically a table of contents to several other pages, each of which is a subpage of the first one. e.g. Acoustics points to Acoustics/Fundamentals_of_Acoustics. So once we agree on the name of the top page, we can create subpages for each of the major sections in a similar way. ~ Nanobug 16:16, 31 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have split the article into subsections - right now just 7 sections. As some of these will grow theý can be put on individual pages and get links directly from the the main table of contents as they have done in other books. KristianMolhave 22:28, 24 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

How is Google Desktop relevant as a Nanotechnology Related Search Engine? That is like saying Google is useful for searching about nanotechnology, which it is, but listing it here is still not very helpful. Plus, its only useful at all if you have documents about nanotechnology on your hard drive, which many of the readers of this article will not. ~ Nanobug 16:37, 28 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

I agree completely, but it is such a nice program that I thought it deserved the PR :-) if you do have lots of nanotech files on your hdd, google desktop is a wonderful tool to find what you want and things you thought you didn't even have. KristianMolhave 19:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Looking at the Physics bookshelf, the names of this article, and the one on Microwiki, appear to be inconsistent with all the others, such as Astronomy, Engineering Thermodynamics, and Special relativity. Is there some reason these names were picked rather than something like Nanotechnology and Microtechnology, which currently just redirect to these articles? Perhaps the names of these two articles should be changed to make them more obvious and straightforward? ~ Nanobug 16:49, 28 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

It could also be nanoscience and microfabrication and ... there are so many variations over the micro/nano theme. that's why I made redirects to something simple that I can remember and fairly unique so it can be found through search engines easily (though there are some uses of microwiki and nanowiki on the net already). If its confusing we can change it. KristianMolhave 19:52, 28 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

Personally I think Nanowiki is confusing. It confuses the technology with the tool we are using to document the technology. I think we should just keep it simple and name it Nanotechnology, the most commonly used and searched for term. The fact that it also includes a lot of Nanoscience is not confusing, it is just that the technology depends so much on the science, just like many other fields, such as Biotechnology. ~ Nanobug 16:16, 31 August 2006 (UTC)Reply

I have moved both books (microwiki and nanowiki) - and now theres a bit of work to be done changing links in the wikimedia; wikibooks subject pages; and wikipedia - but they can stay for a while since nanowiki/microwiki redirects. Better to all that now before we start adding images etc...--KristianMolhave 08:42, 4 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

This edit was made to the ---Search engines--- section at 09:50, 5 September 2006. The edit was lost when I redid the pagemove, I didn't put it back in because it seems to go against the format of the surrounding sections. Edit was as follows, completely replaced the search engines section as it is currently:

• ISI - Web of Science Database contains peer reviewed journals, their references and citations. Very useful tools such as 'find related papers', searches for papers that share the same references. This is the database behind the compilation of the journal citation factors.
• Knovel - Online Handbook Collection and Database is an extensive collection of handbooks and tables.
• PROLA - the Physical Review Online Archive searches Physical Review journals.
• Rubber Bible Online is a physical chemistry handbook which contains tables of physical and chemical data.
• Spin AIP Scitation searches related journals.
• Web of Science by ISI generates the impact factors (see journals below).
• Virtual Journal of Nanotechnlogy collectins nanotech related papers from non-nano spcialized journals

--SB_Johnny | ^talk 10:17, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

We'll take it ;-) it looks better than the table. KristianMolhave 14:38, 8 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

FYI: due to the copy paste of this article to a new one, and the subsequent revert and move of the article, somehow the history on this talk page before Sept 4 was lost (or at least I cannot find it). Fortunately the history on the main article page was not lost. ~ Nanobug 13:14, 13 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

yes, I was in doubt about how to make the move from nanowiki to nanotechnology and sb-johnny helped me to get it right for the main page. But all edits are still visible on the talk page, so nothing is really lost. KristianMolhave 19:29, 13 September 2006 (UTC)Reply

KristianMolhave 21:23, 21 November 2006 (UTC): I'm asking several people to join and contribute specific sections I know they have written about. I also hope to set up an editorial board for the book.Reply

The section on nanomaterials is based on quick attempt to divide them. I'm not sure of some other division wouldn't be more suitable. The introduction describes various ways of classifying nanomaterials and it could be done in still more ways. Comments on ways to divide this chapter are very welcome! KristianMolhave 18:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

On the subject of the future of Nanotechnology wikibook: I'm wondering if you would like my help? I've never contributed to anything on neither Wikipedia nor Wikibooks before and I am being Swedish, so I might need some help with editing texts I've written (like spell-checking and such). But I am studying nanoscience and I believe I could contribute in areas like perhaps electron microscopy or some applications, like nanowires etc. I mean - of course I can add anything I want - I just wonder if someone know something that is more urgent or wanted (or something that this person feel is too boring to write him/her-self). Deity 23:25, 9 December 2006 (UTC)Reply

Hi Deity - you are very welcome to add and edit where ever you feel you can contribute! The book is still just starting and I think it would be nice to have small sections on all subjects to sort of cover the entire subject minimally for a start. I hope it will be more appealing for people to add more material to a page that already contains material than a blank page. So if there is a rather empty section where you feel you already have material, know a lot, or would find it fun to contribute then please go ahead! If you would like someone to proof read it, you can email it to me first - but the wiki users are generally very good at helping proof reading so i would just upload it and we can take it from there.

Material is in preparation for the section on environmental nanotechnology, but just add to these pages if you want to, then we'll edit it together when the off line material gets uploaded. 18:58, 10 December 2006 (UTC)

I'm a newbie...was surfing by and noticed the Wikibook title.

Perhaps someone more qualified than myself can contribute information to the Introduction that gives background to lay readers about both the origins of the term "nanotechnology" and its earliest roots.

What I do know is that the late Navy Commodore Grace Hopper is generally considered to have coined the term as early as the 1940s, when she was heading up a mainframe computer project, in cooperation with IBM, in the bowels of the Pentagon. I heard her give a first-hand account of the work she had done on this project, which pioneered the way for nanotechnology, in a speech she gave on the topic at a trade association (American Logistics Association) conference--in the context of emerging information technologies, problems with slow government payments to vendors/suppliers, and the potential for using electronic funds transfer (EFT) to address the problem--in the mid-1980s.

People working or studying in the nanotechnology field will no doubt have heard of Grace Hopper and may be able to more readily fill in these blanks on the Introduction's canvas.--Alangray53 14:37, 23 December 2006 (UTC)Alan GrayReply

Its good but ı think there must be some information about nanomagnetizm because we can see most interesting changes in magnetizm when we go from bulk to nano size.

I suggest this book should be printable and downloadable as PDF because that will ease most low-budget people to take this book entirely in one attempt.Robin688 (discuss • contribs) 15:59, 2 January 2012 (UTC)Reply