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7/12/2024 12:02:57 AM
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Legendary Bows feel terrible

In PvE, their damage doesn’t offset how low their fire rate is. Their DPS is pitiful compared to every other weapon type, and their extra damage per shot almost never comes up beneficial In PvP, the nerfs hit ever bow across the board when only 2-3 exotics were the issue. Accuracy penalties and crit requirements on weapons that struggle with accuracy now outside of 30m. Bungie, instead of adjusting the free-wall hack bow and the bow with 50+ more stat points than any other in the game. (Wish Ender and Le Mon), they decided to nuke every bow in the game by a significant margin. And they are falling way behind other primaries in PvE.
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  • Good …. May those back in the map weapons disappear all together

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  • Edited by GhostChild808: 7/13/2024 9:37:47 AM
    I usually wait until the Momentum Playlist to return. Only then I'll use bows whether they're rare, legendary or exotic bows, especially if they have explosive tipped arrowheads.

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  • I'm not so sure.....and I main bows in both PvP and PvE. They may not be the best of the best, but I find them fun to use, and I haven't NOT used one as my main primary in a long time. Thing is, not everything is about DPS. Bows give you the option to deal high damage while peak-shooting and can have a lot of utility when paired with the correct exotic armour piece or subclass fragments. For example a Vengeful Whisper with Archers Tempo and Hatchling pairs really well with a decent Strand build that takes advantage of threadlings (e.g. The Swarmers for Warlocks). Or The Raconteur with Headstone which I used pretty much for the entirety of the FS legendary campaign, taking advantage of the fragments that give you extra damage on stasis shatters and extra ability damage on enemies afflicted with darkness debuffs. The only thing I will say in detrement to bows is that before FS (and the bow nerf) I was doing really well in PvP with precision bows, Under Your Skin in particular was my go-to. Now, I really struggle locking down kills with precision frames because they are just that little bit too slow. Lightweights are where it's at now for me because of the additional mobility they grant you being essential for surviving beyond that first shot, pair it with archers tempo and a 500ms draw time gives you a really fast draw for getting that follow up headshot. I've been doing quite well with Tyranny since the bow nerf. Do I get annoyed when I miss that follow up headshot and lose the dual? Sure, but that was my fault for missing the shot.

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    • Even wish keeper lost its luster everything is so tanky for no f****** reason! We are either too low where it’s just stuff to mass genocide the entire activity or we are too low we question if video games actually do cause violence.

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    • I am not a number-cruncher, but I love bows. Well, I DID love bows, but I haven't touched them at all for a couple seasons. They just don't feel right anymore in PvE, they aren't hitting hard enough, and even though I have buffed my reload and used the fastest bows with Archer's Tempo in my vault that I have, it takes so long to kill something I realise I could have just one-shot it with The Call and be done. Bows haven't felt decent since Season of Defiance, and I have no idea what changed, when I thought bows were getting buffed at some point. In any event, I have put all my bows back into my vault now until a moment arises I can bring them out again. But I miss them!

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      • That’s what we like to see !!!

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      • They can stay bad in pvp imo. But in pve, legendary bows are kinda suffering from the runaway success of the exotics.

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        • I love bows. My current favs are Raconteur and Point of The Stag. The nerf was way over the top. Sure, being able to double body someone with a precision was definitely overtuned, but why do we have to double crit now? They were already underused as it was, now they’re 10 times as hard to use. Just let precisions one head one body, and idgaf what you do with Lightweights damage wise, but they desperately need an accuracy buff.

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        • Edited by IAGNRG: 7/12/2024 2:35:59 PM
          In pve, the raid bow is entertaining as hell.

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          • If a bow had good dps, it would likely be the only weapon used, it already has range and huge amounts of aim assist.

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            • Disagree

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              • honestly, for the PVP hot-swapping issue, why couldn't bungie have just disabled quick sling mod for all bows the way backup mag isn't available on rockets? do that and remove/replace quickdraw on any bows that roll it, and 90% of the bow headache is gone instantly. hell, you can even chunk nerf handling on bows too if you wanna play it safe

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                • That's because TTK is so low. Bows have been left behind. Exotics like Trinity Ghoul are still good, but nobody really wants to use legendaries.

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                • Bows got overtuned, but the pvp team wants it dead. Or at least not part of the meta right now, maybe in the future they will change it again. Right now they suck both in pve and pvp. Anything is good in mid to lower content, and talking about Master/GM and Trials ( the usage rate says it all, when winning matters nobody is using bows)

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                • At least I'm not the only one feeling that bows need some love

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                  • I’m a heavy bow user and they don’t feel awful in PvE but they definitely don’t feel as good as they used to. I think they are taking way too much flinch to be honest. I use a bow and sidearm in PvP a lot because I’m a glutton for punishment… they definitely feel awful there. All they needed to do was nerf the stow speed and take away the hot swap two tap but decided to absolutely destroy them.

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                    • Bows have crazy range only beat by snipers or scouts. Compared to scouts, they hit much harder. I get the disappointment but to make guardians able to sit back and kill everything would be bad.

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                      • I love how they finally gave us a bow with Distribution Break then nerfed it into the ground about a week later, it’s been sitting in my vault ever since.

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                      • They really do be bad.

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                      • Obviously you have never tried tyranny of heaven with firefly and incandescent in PVE.

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