Timeline for The [heisenbug] tag has been burninated
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| Aug 25, 2019 at 23:09 | comment | added | mRotten | @NobodyNada I disagree, but I don’t feel strongly about it. | |
| Aug 25, 2019 at 16:28 | comment | added | NobodyNada | @mRotten It may be a great word, but that doesn’t make it a great tag. Tags are to categorize questions for searchability; whether a problem is a Heisenbug belongs in the question body, not the tags. | |
| Aug 25, 2019 at 4:38 | comment | added | mRotten | Never used the tag, but am sad it’s gone. “Heisenbug” is such a great word, and it succinctly conveys an important property of the bug, i.e. that it doesn’t happen when debugging is on. Minor but significant loss for SO, IMO. | |
| Aug 19, 2019 at 3:01 | comment | added | NobodyNada | @Phil Yes, there is a different standard here: Meta is much more relaxed and typically has much more room for humor than the main site. | |
| Aug 19, 2019 at 2:25 | comment | added | Phil | We don't want humor like the heisenbug tag, because humor is noise, but we're quite happy with humor like using the word burninate and imagry like Trogdor. Seems there's a bit of a double standard here. | |
| Aug 18, 2019 at 4:29 | vote | accept | NobodyNada | ||
| Aug 18, 2019 at 2:41 | history | notice added | Bhargav Rao | Completed Burninate Request | |
| Aug 18, 2019 at 2:41 | history | notice removed | Bhargav Rao | ||
| Aug 18, 2019 at 2:40 | history | edited | Bhargav Rao | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 18, 2019 at 1:55 | comment | added | S.S. Anne | @BhargavRao All the questions in the tag have been closed. Isn't that stage 3 or something? | |
| Aug 17, 2019 at 17:24 | answer | added | jhegedus | timeline score: -7 | |
| Aug 17, 2019 at 7:04 | history | notice added | Bhargav Rao | In-progress Burninate Request | |
| Aug 17, 2019 at 7:03 | history | notice removed | Bhargav Rao | ||
| Aug 17, 2019 at 7:03 | answer | added | Bhargav Rao | timeline score: 13 | |
| Aug 17, 2019 at 7:03 | history | edited | Bhargav Rao | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 17, 2019 at 7:03 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao | Stats at the end of featuring: Q +166/-29. A1 (Saying Yes) +119/-10. A2 (Saying No) +22/-29. A3 (Saying Yes) +5/-1. A4 (Saying Yes) +12/-1. A5 (Saying No) +5/-3. The community has voted in favor of burninating the tag. | |
| Aug 16, 2019 at 23:23 | comment | added | Jonathan. | @TylerH, It's like there used to be a bunch of interesting questions but then they got closed as subjective, or historical, etc. That sort of thing brings people into the site, and then they answer questions while here. Its like a supermarket selling certain items at cost/for a loss to bring people in the door. People don't want to visit a dry boring site. Especially not people who are writing the answers. (people writing questions already have motivation to come here) | |
| Aug 16, 2019 at 15:36 | comment | added | polkovnikov.ph | Tags are used to find questions. If I were feeling funny, I'd went to help several people with their heisenbugs, just for the sake of complexity of such endeavour. My vote is to keep it. | |
| Aug 16, 2019 at 14:12 | comment | added | TylerH | @Jonathan. I don't see any humor or community building value in the existence of this tag, and thus we're not losing any of that by burninating it. That aside, jokes and humor are noise, and SO is built on minimizing noise. If you want humor, you can always go read comics or visit /r/funny. | |
| Aug 16, 2019 at 11:43 | comment | added | Tomáš Zato | @Holger I agree 100%. And I wish that there were actually some people willing to help with questions that go beyond "Find an error in 10 lines of code". | |
| Aug 16, 2019 at 7:27 | answer | added | Markus W Mahlberg | timeline score: 6 | |
| Aug 15, 2019 at 19:29 | answer | added | Compass | timeline score: 12 | |
| Aug 15, 2019 at 13:47 | answer | added | Alfe | timeline score: 4 | |
| Aug 15, 2019 at 10:47 | comment | added | Jonathan. | What's with the need to remove any sense of humour or community from the site? It's a tiny tag, just leave it, and some people will get curious when they see and maybe chuckle. | |
| Aug 15, 2019 at 4:10 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao | Quick follow ups. 1. The comments on this post have been cleaned to facilitate discussion about the burnination of this tag. Feel free to hold off on the puns and other off-topic discussions until the end of the burnination process. 2. Given that there has been some discussion to save the tag, I'm leaving this open for another day of discussion. | |
| Aug 12, 2019 at 17:15 | comment | added | NobodyNada | @TaW It is for debugging questions; there's a close reason for it: "Questions seeking debugging help ("why isn't this code working?") must include the desired behavior, a specific problem or error and the shortest code necessary to reproduce it in the question itself. Questions without a clear problem statement are not useful to other readers. See: How to create a Minimal, Complete, and Verifiable example." | |
| Aug 12, 2019 at 17:01 | comment | added | TaW | Your premise is wrong. Creating/presenting an MCVE is NOT a requirement on SO ! | |
| Aug 12, 2019 at 14:23 | comment | added | Michael Kay | A Heisenbug can be 100% reproducible. E.g. the code fails every time when run with debugging switched off, and works every time when run with debugging switched on. | |
| Aug 12, 2019 at 13:54 | comment | added | Matt | I just love it. Douglas Adams would love this definition too (or was he Stackoverflow user who created this tag long time ago?) "There is a theory which states that if ever anyone discovers exactly what the Universe is for and why it is here, it will instantly disappear and be replaced by something even more bizarre and inexplicable. There is another theory which states that this has already happened." Please keep it, SO needs some humour. :-D | |
| Aug 12, 2019 at 13:41 | comment | added | NobodyNada | @Owl Removing this tag does not change the rules regarding what is on topic and therefore won’t “invalidate” any questions. I’m proposing we burninate this tag because the fact that a problem is a heisenbug belongs in the question body; this tag does not make the question easier for experts to find. | |
| Aug 12, 2019 at 12:49 | comment | added | Owl | Removing this tag will invalidate nearly every non trivial memory fault you'll ever seen under windows. It's not a good idea. | |
| Aug 12, 2019 at 10:12 | history | edited | Dan Is Fiddling By Firelight | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Aug 12, 2019 at 8:00 | comment | added | Raedwald | I wonder how many questions tagged thus are accurately tagged. Given the numerous low effort debugging questions, I suspect only a few. | |
| Aug 12, 2019 at 7:34 | comment | added | Holger |
I don’t agree that such questions are off-topic, as the possibility to reproduce the problem is not a strict requirement. Questioner should attempt to create an MCVE as hard as possible, still, if they can’t, the question might still be answerable by looking at the source code and problem description. Sometimes, even at the first sight. However, that doesn’t make the tag a useful question category. [heisenbug] is as useful as [annoying] or [tricky]…
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| Aug 12, 2019 at 6:14 | comment | added | Bhargav Rao | Stats at the start of featuring: Q: +65/-13. A1 (Saying Yes) +42/-4. A2 (Saying No) +1/0 | |
| Aug 12, 2019 at 6:12 | history | notice added | Bhargav Rao | Featured Burninate Request | |
| Aug 12, 2019 at 6:12 | history | edited | Bhargav Rao | CC BY-SA 4.0 |
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| Apr 16, 2019 at 4:07 | answer | added | Joshua | timeline score: -8 | |
| Mar 20, 2017 at 9:34 | history | edited | CommunityBot |
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| Jul 21, 2016 at 6:47 | comment | added | usr1234567 | @ssube: What does the tag add for such questions? You can still add a sentence that it does not occur every time. | |
| Jul 20, 2016 at 21:25 | history | edited | NobodyNada | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 20, 2016 at 21:22 | comment | added | NobodyNada | @ssube But questions about heisenbugs are nearly always going to be off-topic as πάντα ῥεῖ and I explained, and [heisenbug] is a meta tag. | |
| Jul 20, 2016 at 21:16 | comment | added | ssube | I think this is a silly but useful tag, because it indicates a problem that doesn't always happen (or is hard to reproduce). | |
| Jul 19, 2016 at 20:09 | history | edited | NobodyNada | CC BY-SA 3.0 |
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| Jul 19, 2016 at 19:12 | answer | added | πάντα ῥεῖ | timeline score: 112 | |
| Jul 19, 2016 at 18:54 | comment | added | πάντα ῥεῖ | Absolutely supported. If I look at Jeff' Atwood's point, made time ago, this certainly doesn't add any value to a quesiton. | |
| Jul 19, 2016 at 18:50 | history | asked | NobodyNada | CC BY-SA 3.0 |