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September 23

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September 22

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  • The drunken driver of a car, speeding at nearly 200 kilometre (124 miles) per hour, hits a bus stop on Minskaya Street in Moscow. Seven pedestrians who were waiting for the bus were killed. (Ria Novosti) (Xinhua)

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September 21

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  • During a Green Day performance at Las Vegas' IHeartRadio music festival, Billie Joe Armstrong became agitated onstage and stopped the band's set midway through their performance. In an expletive-filled rant, Armstrong criticized the event's promoters for allegedly cutting short the band's performance before smashing his guitar and storming off stage.

Science

Record Polar Minimum

Article: Climate change in the Arctic (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Arctic sea ice extent falls to a record minimum. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, NSIDC
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: As an advance on the below nomination (a prediction), this is a story about the current state of the sea ice. Significant, and, in a sense, global in scope. --LukeSurl t c 17:25, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support. The actual minimum was on September 16th, but I guess you couldn't know it was the bottom until now a few days later. A very significant climate record, especially in the context of global warming. Thue (talk) 22:33, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak support, this is factual with neutrally worded blurb on a subject that could be controversial. It's not majorly notable however, it's been the same trend for years, so in a way that was obvious years before but now is just expected every few years. Regards, Sun Creator(talk) 23:18, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • WE'RE ALL GONNA DIEEEEEEE. Erm, yeah, conditional support. Science stories dont' often come up, and this one seems to be making the rounds in the various news sources. However, before I can remove the conditional part, we'd need an update to the bolded article. I don't see one yet. If that is done, you can count this as a support. If that isn't done, you can't. --Jayron32 23:21, 22 September 2012 (UTC) Edit: Nevermind, I found it. It's there, but its a bit skimpy. Could we fill this out a tad? That'd be nice, but this seems to meet the bare minimum, news has been slow, and this is a minority topic. Still, don't let this stop anyone from improving it. --Jayron32 23:24, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support - People need to be aware that, as Jayron32 notes, we are all going to die. And the reasons above. --Activism1234 01:15, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose - Not to ignite any arguments over climate change, this is only the lowest recorded minimum, and may not be a true minimum. I'm fully aware of what this implies in terms of the issues, but this could be taken as fear-mongering without conclusion. --MASEM (t) 01:28, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Polar ice cap

Article: Polar ice cap (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A researcher at the University of Cambridge predicts that in about four years, the Arctic polar ice cap will melt completely during the summer months. (Post)
News source(s): [1]
Credits:
Article needs updating
 --Doubtcoachdoubtcoach (talk) 10:00, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Uterus transplant

Article: Uterus transplantation (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Surgeons at Gothenburg University in Sweden perform the first-ever mother-to-daughter uterus transplantation. (Post)
News source(s): NPR
Credits:

Article needs updating
 --Johnsemlak (talk) 14:18, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[Withdrawn] Syria sticky

Withdrawn by nom.
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.

Time to rmove? News has slowed lately (inlight of the protests, mainly). There have also not been b big battles/casualties lately. In the last few days, the biggest syria story is an internview with assad predicting an end. So thats more speculative.Lihaas (talk) 12:15, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

So when Syria is down to almost daily bombings or shootings, with only a dozen weekly causalities, we can drop the sticky? --IP98 (talk) 22:57, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Demonstrations across Pakistan

Article: 2012 Pakistan anti-Islam film protests (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Dozens of Violent protests across Pakistan against anti-Islam film leaves two dead (Post)
Nominator's comments: The dead includes a police men and a journalist. --Saki (talk) 12:13, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
2 dead is not really an ITN blur, however some sort of an update to the blurb may be warranted. Probably as the day progresses that may be more elsewhereLihaas (talk) 12:20, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Deaths are up to three now [2]. Mohamed CJ (talk) 12:46, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We could simply bring the blurb up again as protests are still on-going in a number of countries (Karachi, New Delhi, Kabul and Tunis.[3]). I've also heard in the radio there are planned protests in Germany and Lebanon, so this story is still up and developing. Mohamed CJ (talk) 12:46, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Update Nine killed in Pakistan. --Saki (talk) 14:31, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose It's a blip in a huge story, I can't see why we need to inflate its importance on the front page doktorb wordsdeeds 14:27, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

27 deaths so far. Received a huge amount of media coverage from around the world. --Saki (talk) 04:53, 23 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
We're now up to 19 deaths 1 which I think is now pretty significant.--Johnsemlak (talk) 16:56, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Support: significant death toll now.[4]--Wikireader41 (talk) 18:01, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Sledgehammer trial

Article: Sledgehammer (coup plan)#Trial (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ Over 200 Turkish generals are convicted/exonerated for an attempted coup. (Post)
Credits:

Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: Pretty big case, with results due in a few hours, it deals with civil-military relation in a country previously prone to coups. Also the blurb can/should be altered. --Lihaas (talk) 10:32, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Operation Fast and Furious

Article: ATF_gunwalking_scandal#Investigations_and_fallout (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The U.S. Justice Department's internal inquiry faults its employees for the inflow of arms to Mexico as part of the Drug War after Operation Fast and the Furious. (Post)
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: Justice Dept report admits guilt and refers hits employees for disciplinary action. Its not everyday that a state [institution] admits wrongdoing, and the repercussions are high enough in the Drug War. The Source in the section also says its an issue in the election. --Lihaas (talk) 10:32, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Umm, U.S.-Mexico relations?Lihaas (talk) 10:55, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Umm so? Might as well say "Umm, 2012 Presidential election". doktorb wordsdeeds 12:15, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Weak oppose - What does it mean for the DoJ to be 'faulted'? By whom? I personally regard this as too domestic and bureaucratic a story, but if it goes ahead, I'd like a clearer blurb, without jargon words like 'faulted' and 'inflow'. AlexTiefling (talk) 10:57, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose 1) The article is a lumbering mess, the last paragraph of the investigation section doesn't make the connection that the DOJ "admitted guilt". 2) The Mexican reaction is actually quite tame. If there had been some fallout in relations, then this would be an easy support. 3) The fact that it's an election issue means it needs even more careful consideration. Both sides are shouting at the top of their lungs right now. 4) Lastly, this is an extension of the Bush era "Operation Wide Receiver", so it's nothing really new. Not like the DOJ or ATF suddenly went rogue and decided to try this madness. --IP98 (talk) 11:11, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Reworded the blurb slightly, faulted comes from direction for its employees to be disciplines. (which doesnt happen if theyve been doing as expected or even excused)
I agree abiout the article quality, but the section is informed/updated.Lihaas (talk) 11:44, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
You do realize that the Justice Department is part of the executive branch, and this nom has nothing to do with congress. μηδείς (talk) 18:37, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Congress is the one conducting the investigation which is the only reason why this non-story is supposedly an issue to begin with.--WaltCip (talk) 18:44, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This is a separate investigation. That's why it's called an internal investigation--The DOJ has released its own report, entirely independent of the congressional investigation. μηδείς (talk) 02:31, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

September 20

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Afghan Governors

Nominator's comments: This is significant to Afghanistan, US, and UK, particularly the firing of Mohammad Gulab Mangal. First article on Al-Jazeera Central and South Asia section, and coverage in US sources as well. --Bzweebl (talkcontribs) 02:48, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Clarify Can we get a clearer and not so overlinked summary of what this really means, so it can be discussed rationally? Would this be like the president of the US reappointing the governor of Texas to Govern NY, and the Governor of New York to govern California? The lack of a primary link in the blurb makes it very confusing to know where to look. Looking at the sources, this is not so much a shuffling as a firing of any governor with US backing--which requires a more accurate blurb. I can support a more accurate blurb. μηδείς (talk) 02:56, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Karzai summarily replaces 10 provincial governors"? --IP98 (talk) 20:44, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

September 19

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Aung San Suu Kyi given US Congressional medal

Article: Aung San Suu Kyi (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Aung San Suu Kyi is given the United States Congressional Gold Medal in person. (Post)
News source(s): BBC, Reuters
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: As many know, Aung San Suu Kyi is an extremely important international figure whose campaign has gained world support and interest. The fact she was able to receive this presitigious award - Congress' highest medal - in person is a major achievement. We've posted Burma-related stories like the easing of sanctions on Burma, etc. --Activism1234 04:54, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose while she is important to Myanmar, her getting this medal doesn't change the reality there. It doesn't bring free elections, it doesn't overthrow the military, it doesn't improve the quality of life, so it doesn't impact the story of Myanmar. The story is the country of Myanmar ending a military dictatorship and returning to democracy, a story which she is clearly part of. The story is not her house arrest and return to freedom. Many Myanmar stories are posted, but her belated receipt of a nobel prize was opposed earlier this year. --IP98 (talk) 11:03, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Really? If we didn't post that, it'd be odd to post this. Anyway, the article says this award is given for achievement with "impact on American history and culture...". Oppose.--Chaser (talk) 20:22, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Oppose I find myself agreeing with IP98 again. She is a highly notable person, of course, but this is not a highly notable event. Prizes are dolled out to leaders and statesmen all the time and I can't feel comfortable with okaying this nomination as it might provide the precedent for others to follow. doktorb wordsdeeds 11:38, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Embassy Sticky?

With the embassy attacks, and now the French closures, this story doesn't seem to be going away. Sticky time? --IP98 (talk) 21:26, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

Not necessarily opposed to it, but my bet is this will simmer down in a week. --Activism1234 21:35, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support as long as the story is still in the news and article "fixed". These events are still developing. I'm worried that there is currently no article for the whole "Islamic unrest"; there is one for the attacks and one for the video, but none of them are covering the bigger image of protests/riots/attacks as a result of the video and now some cartoons. Mohamed CJ (talk) 12:52, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Isn't there an "innocence of Islam controversy" article yet? The Pakistan riots are part of the story, but have no embassy to attack. --IP98 (talk) 20:45, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

[Posted] France to close 20 embassies

Article: Charlie Hebdo (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: France announces plans to close its embassies in 20 Muslim countries in expectation of a violent response to a cartoon of Muhammad in the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo. (Post)
News source(s): [5]
Credits:

Article needs updating
Nominator's comments: This is major (21 countries involved) global news and should go up by Friday. I am happy to change the relevant article and add other updaters. μηδείς (talk) 20:59, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
(edit conflict)comment the 2nd u-pdated article is not even in the blurb, so i removed it. The update consists of 2 sentences and 2 qutes, it could be larger as the section is very short. (and the article is poor with nothing but a log of "history" by year.
oppose just speculation at the moment as nothing has happened. And its mostly playing off the current issue.Lihaas (talk) 23:27, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
There's an error in the blurb. Sources indicate that France has said they are shutting down the embassies - not planning to. I'll bring it to the appropriate noticeboard. But it's not speculation. --Activism1234 23:33, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Hmm error page doesnt have a spot for ITN... Can an admin change the blurb? Based on the refs (more are provided in the article itself), it should be "France closes its embassies in 20 Muslim countries in expectation of a violent response to a cartoon of Muhammad in the satirical magazine Charlie Hebdo." Here's another ref that uses past tense btw. --Activism1234 23:40, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
"Error page doesn't have a spot for ITN"? What are you talking about? It even has the massive ITN update template. -- tariqabjotu 20:57, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
A section was added after I brought this up. --Activism1234 22:40, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Oh. Well, not quite. It's been there since almost the beginning of the page's history, but someone had accidentally deleted something that made the ITN section invisible for a few hours (and apparently didn't notice their comment didn't showed up). -- tariqabjotu 02:37, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • There is no need to put the wording on errors, you can ask for an update here. The wording should be "France announces it will close..." since it is scheduled for Friday. Assuming it's still up it can got to "France closes..." at that point. 23:47, 19 September 2012 (UTC)

Kiribati castaway

Article: Castaway (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ A man from the Republic of Kiribati is rescued by a shark after being 105 days lost at sea. (Post)
News source(s): Radio New Zealand International
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: I think it is a good blurb for the main page, to let people know about the Republic of Kiribati too. Timothyhere (talk) 15:23, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment It seems to be that people from the Republic of Kiribati are prone to get lost at sea, in our article castaway there are three cases of Kiribati people lost at sea haha. Poor people. Timothyhere (talk) 16:31, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Sorry, is this a joke? There's no article, for one thing, but more specifically, this is somewhere close to being the least important story ever presented here and I remember when we had to deal with the flipping Occupy movement. Under no circumstances should this trivial piece of flim-flam come within touching distance of the front page. That's before I even start with the peculiar language used by the nominator. Complete balderdash. doktorb wordsdeeds 16:41, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment Are you paid to be aggressive?, you could have opposed without attacking me. Timothyhere (talk) 16:43, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Okay, I will. This story is a flimsy curiosity piece with no notability whatsoever and has no chance of making it to the front page. doktorb wordsdeeds 16:45, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Comment you're still agressive. But anyway, I thought it could be relevant since it doesn't happen often to have a man lost at sea for 105 days. Anyway... thank you. — Preceding unsigned comment added by Timothyhere (talkcontribs) 16:50, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
No, I'm being honest. This story would need an article, or at least a very good update on an appropriate article. It doesn't. From what I can see there's very little mention of this story anywhere else but that one website. It needs to be very important for inclusion and I just can't see that happening. doktorb wordsdeeds 17:18, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This is the second time an argument like this has come up. OMG. --Τασουλα (talk) 19:21, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Tasoula, the fact that you are ignorant of the whereabouts of an entire country does not make this not newsworthy. This is no different from the pointless 'Who?' responses. Seriously - come up with a proper reason to oppose. AlexTiefling (talk) 09:14, 20 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Comment It was obvious that this would snowball with opposes. But I have to give kudos to the nominator for nominating at least something, because the reality is that it's already Wednesday (or Thursday to some) and we still haven't posted any news from this week (and even this piece was originally reported on Sunday evening for those on the Western hemisphere.) It's a terrible newsweek, with all 'World' section headlines being dominated by the continued Innocence of Muslims protests. I have really tried looking, and I haven't found anything suitable in the sources I normally employ. --hydrox (talk) 19:41, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Maybe we need a sticky? --IP98 (talk) 20:58, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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  • Following the world's first mother-to-daughter uterus transplants at the University of Gothenburg two women may now be able to give birth using the wombs in which they were carried. (BBC)

Marikana strike ends

Article: Marikana miners' strike#Mediation (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: Lonmin and striking miners come to a settlement in the Marikana miners' strike which resulted in 57 deaths and hundreds arrested, amidst solidarity protests. (Post)
News source(s): Financial Times
Credits:

Article updated
Nominator's comments: We reported the biggest single incident in this dispute, this seems to be the final conclusion. Minority topic too since it's a business story. --46.208.92.51 (talk) 18:32, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
per the request of the OP, I am hatting the non-sequitor part of the discussion. --Jayron32 02:53, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
  • As of right now, neither Marikana miners' strike nor Lonmin contains any information about the above blurb. Please repeat after me "Update first, then nominate. Update first, then nominate. Update first, then nominate." Say it before you go to bed at night. Say it again when you get up in the morning. If someone will be so kind as to attempt to make a Wikipedia article better, we can then decide if this qualifies for the front page. mkthxbye. ---Jayron32 19:00, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
What an appalling attitude to take towards a new nominator here. Items are frequently proposed with the specific purpose of gaining assistance in building/updating the article, or in anticipation of a sporting/election result. You owe an apology. Kevin McE (talk) 19:04, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Which administrator tool did I misuse? --Jayron32 19:07, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Where did I say you did that? Kevin McE (talk) 19:38, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Where is it relevent that I am an administrator then? You brought up that fact. I'd like to know where my being an administrator is somehow related to my appalling attitude. There is nothing in having an appalling attitude that involves the use of any of my administrator tools, so it is a nonsequitur. If my appalling attitude upsets you, it shouldn't be because I am an administrator. My appalling attitude should be appalling regardless of who I am, and other users don't get to be appalling merely because they aren't administrators. You used the word "administrator" here in your edit summary. --Jayron32 19:51, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Do you not think that it is incumbent on administrators to show the highest standards of wiki etiquette, respect for contributors, exemplification of compliance with wp:bite and wp:AGF, and recognition of the modus operandi of particular projects? Appalling behaviour is appalling behaviour whoever commits it, but administrators should have determined that they will refrain from such attitudes before they apply for a role that grants authority and the assumption of respectability within the project. If that is not something you are willing to commit to, I would question your choice to become an administrator. Your obscene edit notes make it clear to me that your status as an admin is not an indicator of any commitment on your part to improvement of Wikipedia. Kevin McE (talk) 20:33, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I have nothing but the highest commitiment to the integrity of this project. That would be readily apparent to anyone who looked at the careful way I interact with users. You, personally, individually, and uniquely, I don't have any use for. But otherwise, I strongly endorse the goals of Wikipedia, and believe in maintaining the utmost levels of decorum when dealing with other users. --Jayron32 21:16, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Having looked at the edit summaries, I politely suggest that it would be better for everyone involved if you took a break from this (seemingly pointless) discussion. —Kerfuffler  harass
stalk
 
21:24, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
See the Mediation section of the strike article. 46.208.92.51 (talk) 19:06, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Ah yes. Thanks for that. In that case support, though it would be nice to see the update added to the lead. I'll probably dash off and do that myself. --Jayron32 19:07, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Irrelevant to the discussion Lihaas (talk) 10:20, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
The following discussion has been closed. Please do not modify it.
You need to be humourless of you're going to be an Admin Jayron. Boobies. --Τασουλα (talk) 19:17, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Can we draw a line under alleged administrator bad conduct and consider the actual proposal please? I'm blonde enough to deal with casual insults but would rather people focus on the story suggested. — Preceding unsigned comment added by 87.112.152.99 (talk) 02:41, 19 September 2012 (UTC) (was 46.208... in a previous incarnation - perhaps I should setup an account)[reply]
    • In that case, I left a relevent message on the user talk page of your old IP address some time ago. I have no idea if you got it. Starting an account is generally a great idea. See WP:WHY which explains some of the benefits of having an account, one of which you've just discovered. --Jayron32 02:53, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I am now user bd85282513da4089c441926e1975898c after finding it very difficult to find a good user name. I am a number, not a name, but I can't call myself a number because the system will not let me. Can you please rename me to 3142, which properly reflects my lack of imagination? — Preceding unsigned comment added by Bd85282513da4089c441926e1975898c (talkcontribs) 04:29, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Account rename requests should be posted to Wikipedia:Changing username/Simple. There's a little form to fill out, and a special administrator named a "bureaucrat" will be along shortly to act on your request. I'm not a bureaucrat, so I don't have that ability. --Jayron32 04:51, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I was going to nominate this when i updated the page yesterday, but im not sure if its ITN-worthy for 2 reasons. 1. We just recently [posted it, 2. all unions have not indicated support for the measure even though an announcement was made to return t o work. Further, not sure if the update is adequate. Ill try to find some more today.
Ive now added more to the page to qualify update -wise. Just pending consensus. For which im neutralsupporting as its a slow news week, we hafe 2 related tories and this has repercussions to the mining/investment sector (As mentioned on the page), as well aspossible repercussion to labour relations/unions
Remarked as "ready" per the update, consensus is for the posting admin to adjuge. /(per previous discussion of the use ready on ITNC)Lihaas (talk) 09:38, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose this was posted a few weeks back during the killings, the end of the strike on it's own doesn't mean anything. The Chicago teachers stike also just ended. Not ready what consensus? What discussion? What? --IP98 (talk) 13:25, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I'm with IP on this one. No idea what kind of cluster-fruitcake we're dealing with above, but aside from that mess, there's some form of story which I think has been covered in enough detail by ITN before. No idea what we're supposed to be considering in all honesty. Whatever it is, is not for the front page doktorb wordsdeeds 16:42, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Support- Asides from the Muslim protests, this has been the biggest story in the world, and the fact that it's ending is even more notable than the related event that we posted. Bzweebl (talkcontribs) 03:24, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Question How is this ready? The !vote is 2 opposes and 2 supports. Was there a past discussion which said the end of the strike should go up?? Removed ready tag. --IP98 (talk) 20:46, 21 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Careful. I removed the [Ready] tag for the same reason and Lihaas went stir-crazy. doktorb wordsdeeds 06:16, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
What the hell has any !vote got to do with judging the readiness of the article's update? Kevin McE (talk) 11:15, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Don't we already have "updated = yes/no" parameter in the template for that? --BorgQueen (talk) 11:20, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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[Posted] Toronto International Film Festival

Article: Toronto International Film Festival (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The film Silver Linings Playbook, directed by David O. Russell, wins the People's Choice Award at the 2012 Toronto International Film Festival. (Post)
News source(s): The Guardian
Credits:

Article updated
The nominated event is listed on WP:ITN/R, so each occurrence is presumed to be important enough to post. Comments should focus on whether the quality of the article and update meet WP:ITNCRIT, not the significance.
Nominator's comments: Please feel free to tweak the blurb. --JuneGloom Talk 22:48, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
September 2009--Johnsemlak (talk) 02:10, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
comment there is absoltely NO update whatsoever per the 5-odd sentences in prose required.Lihaas (talk) 01:20, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]

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UK to end GCSEs in core subjects

Article: GCSE (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The UK Government announces a shake-up of secondary education qualifications, which will see GCSEs in core subjects in England replaced by a qualification called the English Baccalaureate. (Post)
News source(s): BBC
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Nominator's comments: GCSEs, and their sister exams, IGCSEs, are taken all over the world. I'm not deeply familiar with this story but if GCSEs are indeed headed for the scrap heap even in only a few (very important) subjects this is a big educational story with international implications. --Johnsemlak (talk) 21:22, 17 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
I dont find this particularly notable (its not outright abolished), but it should be aminority topic. Education = culture? (marked as sch)Lihaas (talk) 01:23, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose, per SunCreator, though I am not a Brit.Egeymi (talk) 05:18, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose I'm usually the first to big up British nominations, but this is perhaps the very definition of a domestic story that doesn't travel very far at all. It's worth nothing that this is for England, not the UK. The Welsh assembly has stated it will take its own time to research what should be done with GCSEs there, and Scotland has always had its own education system independent of GCSEs. So this nomination is already reduced to "England ends GCSEs in core subjects". Just not important enough for Wikipedia. England getting its own nomination on the front page for a bit of departmental administration would be bizarre. doktorb wordsdeeds 06:07, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Soon to be forgotten in England. It's not even on the front page of the BBC news site any-more. --Τασουλα (talk) 08:07, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose Not relevant to anywhere outside the UK. Donnie Park (talk) 12:07, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
  • Oppose - I am a Brit, and this is just a policy announcement. If this plan goes through, I might support "Students sit/receive the first English Baccalaureates" as and when that story could be run. But the government announces big changes to things all the time, and a lot of it never happens. Conversely, we haven't done anything on the progressive erosion of the NHS, because that has not been accompanied by big publicity splashes like this one. Just as we are not Apple Computer's press agency (cf iPhone), we are aslo not a press agency for Mr Gove, the DfE, or Conservative Central Office. AlexTiefling (talk) 12:33, 18 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
Frequently. What did you have in mind? (I must have left my psychic powers in my other jacket today.) AlexTiefling (talk) 14:39, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
comment can someoneexplain why thi s was closeD? we dont normally close things even when against consensus.Lihaas (talk) 23:30, 19 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
This may help explain. SpencerT♦C 03:20, 22 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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NHL lockout

Article: 2012 NHL lockout (talk · history · tag)
Blurb: ​ The National Hockey League locks out its players after the expiry of the collective bargaining agreement. (Post)
News source(s): ESPN
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Article updated
Nominator's comments: This is the second lockout in eight years. --Presidentman talk · contribs Random Picture of the Day (Talkback) 12:00, 16 September 2012 (UTC)[reply]
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