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[V: 2.0 back from my break and completely revamping this suggestion

Suggestion Overview:
Books and bookshelves are useless but are some of the hardest items to get so this suggestion aims to make them useful
-There will be several different types of books which can be read
-regular books will contain information on how to make other book and bookshelves
-some will act as in game tutorials
-others will contain interesting stories and information for fun
-Some books will have random useful functions (like secret compartments and organizing maps)
-And of course there will be custom books
-Also new players will spawn with a regular book in inventory to help them make more books and access other tutorials (this is arguable)

Use for bookshelves:
Right now I’m not quite sure what the use of bookshelves should be and I’m torn between two different ideas so please tell me which you prefer or suggest your own use
Use 1: Bookshelves will store three books at a time and are required to read tutorial and story books (special books, regular books and customs books can all be read in inventory) With this suggestion you would use a custom book to take notes from other books before going on an adventure so you can access your notes anywhere
Use 2: Bookshelves would hold more books (possibly 5) and would be the only way to store books other than regular books (they would not be able to be deposited into a chest)

The books
All books could be crafted by combining a book with another item in a crafting grid (shapless)
The decription of the book will only list the secondary item used to craft the book (to save me the time of typing it)

Tutorial books
These books would help new and old players alike since many players are unaware of the wiki and tabing out can be annoying

Tool book - stick
List tools, what they’re for and their durability

Crafting Book- Crafting Table
Lists all recipes except for other books

Furnace book – Furnace
How furnaces work, different fuels

Book of Books- (combine 4 books, a special case)
Lists the recipes of all other books

Health book – Porkchop
Basics of health, different foods

Combat Book – Wooden Sword
Different weapons, combat system, different enemies

Armour Book – Leather
Lists armours, and how much the protect

Monster Book- bone
In-detail description of various hostile mobs
Animal Book – Feather
In-detail description of passive mobs and wolves (not squids)

Sea book – Boat
How boats work, description of fishing and of squid, drowing

Plant + Farming Book- Seeds
Tells of the various plants (and mushrooms) and how they grow, how bonemeal works and how to farm different plants

Dye book- Wool
How to get different dyes and how to shear sheep

Light Book- Torch
How light works and effects things (spawns, ice, etc)

Nether Book –obsidian
How to make a portal, everything about the nether

Piston Book- Piston
Mechanic s of Pistons

Minecart Book- Minecart
Information of minecarts, how tracks work, execration ect.

Redstone book – Redstone
Information about the basics of redstone

Advanced Redstone – (Special case, requires two pieces of redstone and a regular book)
The more advance ciruits and how to create logic gates

Liquid Book- Bucket
About how water and magma flow and react with each other.

Boom Book- Sulphur
All about tnt, its power and how to detonate it

Music Book – Noteblock
How noteblocks behave and how to tune them.

Story Books
These books serve no real purpose they are for entertainmant purposes only

Book of Notch- Apple
All about the story of the creator of minecraft

Ominous Book-Golden Apple
This strange book is titled… “Him”
(Apparently some people didn’t get the reference; this book is about hero brine)

History of Minecraft- Diamond
Tells the history of minecraft

Special Books
These books all serve different unique purposes

Secret Compartment book- Chest
When you read this book a chest with one space opens to hide an item in, This book looks almost exactly like the default book except for that it has a slight gold tinge

Dispenser Book – Dispenser
Right clicking this book will open up a single inventory space, whatever is place in here will be dispenses/fired when the book is read, This book looks almost exactly like the default book except that it has a slight grayish tinge

Atlas- Map
This book will show every map you have craft in that world, the maps however will not update if you view them with the book. (For balance issues I’m not sure if your location arrow should show up, let me know in the comments)

Custom Books-Ink Sac
Right clicking this book will open up a Gui like notepad that will allow you to write in it, this is useful for taking notes from other books before you go on an expedition
- Part of custom books is a new block called the Printing Press. This Block is similar to a furnace but uses ink sacs as fuel, you load in default books and you place a custom book into a special template spot and the press turns the book into custom books that are the same as the template (one book her ink sac)

Some Final Notes:
-First Off thanks to everyone who supports me I’ve gotten a ton of ideas from you guys and owe you all a lot (im sorry I didn’t give you guys credit, im working on a credits list now, its just taking awhile to gather all your oldly spelled names)
-Secondly, what do you think of Magic, I’ve been thinking of maybe adding spell books (The problem is trying to balance them) so let me know in the comments what you think and what kind of spells you think would be good, or if you even want such an idea
-Third a Modder has contacted me and we might collaborate on a better books mod together (he/she will do all the coding because I’m a complete java noob)

Closing!
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THANKS!

Wow. I really like this idea. I like how you used all of the different items to create the different books. The books would sort of function like mini strategy guide for more in depth things that newcomers (and maybe even some who have been playing for a decent amount of time) might not know about. I think that this would provide a use for the bookshelf and eliminate "why store books in a bookshelf with less space, when you can just put it in the chest." Although, I agree with only being able to read books in the bookshelf, so as to give the bookshelf a purpose, but I think that you should be able to read the custom book if it is in your inventory. This way, you can have notes for yourself while you travel, maybe to remind yourself of landmarks or something, also if you see something funny happen you can jot it down, or even if you want to keep a day by day journal while you are out exploring. Another thing, who would provide the dungeon raider techniques, the ideas for minecart stations, and the ideas for the farms? I mean, they can be made multiple ways... Finally, (this is minor) I think the bookcase should have two rows three columns of storage, because if you look at the bookcase skin :bookshelf:, it has two rows.

I really, really like the way you made the idea, just needs some tweaking maybe? Maybe not?

This idea soubnds gooood. I 100% agree.

I like the idea about being able to read custom books in inventory I think I'll add that

For the techniques and stuff I kindof thought they would be off the wiki, Just list some basic stuff like for dungeons, how to nutralize spawners and for stations how to flip tracks with redstone. Just basic stuff

I think book shelves should only have 3 spaces for holding thought because they require three books to make, maybe make 5 spaces and have 2 left blank, I dunno ill think about that part

Thanks for the support :biggrin.gif:

WOW! This a great idea.

As a book-lover myself I would like Notch to consider this.

Also, Have you heard of SMP mods that give quotes when you
r-click on the bookshelves.

Maybe a + a book will give a quote that will generate either random quotes or
different splashes and explanations of those splashes.


Btw, Here is your diamond:

I like that Idea, I think ill put it under story books, im just trying to think of a better recipe, flint and steel is reserved for another idea im working on

Thanks for all the ideas and support guys

Amazing idea, really, and another suggestion/idea for a book:

Book+Sulpher+Sand(Or Book+TNT)=Book of explosives
Teaches about TNT, like how set one off, how to disarm it with water, what materials are more resistant to it, and how to make a basic TNT cannon.

I would personally add this book idea.

More good ideas thanks again
They've all been added and credit has been given
I still trying to decide on how many the book shelf should hold (maybe ill put up a poll)
And im also trying to figure out how a quote book would work

Also an Original Idea
Book + Wood plank = Builder's Book
This book would randomize between a list of things to build (theyre are several lists like this around the forums), for people with builders block
So what do you think? Should it go on the list?

Quote from Arblyoko »

I like that Idea, I think ill put it under story books, im just trying to think of a better recipe, flint and steel is reserved for another idea im working on

Thanks for all the ideas and support guys

Ya I didn't know what to use, so I chose the flint and steel.
Oh and the Builder's Book is a good idea.

Quote from J0llyR0ger »

Quote from Arblyoko »

I like that Idea, I think ill put it under story books, im just trying to think of a better recipe, flint and steel is reserved for another idea im working on

Thanks for all the ideas and support guys

Ya I didn't know what to use, so I chose the flint and steel.

I was able to think of a recipe ( I added it)
However im not quite sure how it would work Do you have any ideas?
Im trying to make it alittle more interesting then just random quotes

Maybe We can ask Notch or the other programmers what type of quotes they like.

That or we can ask the community to make up the quotes.

Yah it would be fun to see what mojang and the community could add to this idea

Also I've though up some new books and im still working on the sprites for the books, there both coming relativly soon

What about a time book? It could be made with a clock and tell how long a minecraft day/night is, when monsters come out to play, and how time (doesn't) work in the Nether.

BTW. I booked marked and here's your diamond rating:

Quote from Omnom18 »

http://www.minecraftforum.net/viewtopic.php?f=25&t=83028

Scroll down a bit until you find "Functional Books rev 2". Allows you to write custom books.

Creeper says" SSSSEEARCH!"

Yeah, im well aware of this mod, Infact i mentioned it in the 2nd sentence of my post, It lets you write in books which is pretty cool but only really useful in SMP. This suggestion would add alot more then just that.

On a different note, thanks for all the diamonds, I wish I could get them into my minecraft world, I would be rich

Great job.

But I hate the idea of "creating" tutorial books. I think it would be better to find them in dungeons. And you should be able to read books whenever you want. Book shelves can still be made for convenience and style.

My thinking is that book shelves are pointless unless they are required for something, other wise you can just store books in chests cause they store so much more, also I feel like the tutorials should be accesable to everyone.
Thats just my opinion though

Alright Omnom18, Maybe I was wrong, I'll admit it if I am. I do however want to fix my mistake.
Im alittle confused as to what mod you are refering to. I was referneceing the mod that allowed you to write in books. I thought it was called functional books, maybe im wrong. So my question is what is the name of the mod you are refering to and what exaclty does it do?
Thanks

In terms of the pictures im about halfway done, now that the weekends here i think ill be able to get them finished
Heres the half ive done so far

Note that ill scale them up larger later

Once im finished im going to rewrite this whole page to adress any problems

This is a good idea, doubt i'll use it... but a good idea nonetheless +

I love the idea. However, tutorials are mildly moot once you have the capability to make bookshelves (at least in my adventures). Additionally, would all books look the same? If not, then wouldn't the secret compartment book be fairly obvious? If yes, then how could you distinguish different tutorials?

Food for thought.
Rudyards